V12's over heating when parked
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V12's over heating when parked
Been reading up on v12 over heating after driving then park the temp keeps rising, on mine normal temp needle is just below N when I kill it turn back on 5 minutes later needle is at top of N. Research says this can drop a valve seat. Someone needs to come up with an electric water pump to run on timer with the rad fans.
Research says to raise hood to let heat out, at home ok, anywhere else I don't think so.LOL
Research says to raise hood to let heat out, at home ok, anywhere else I don't think so.LOL
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Been reading up on v12 over heating after driving then park the temp keeps rising, on mine normal temp needle is just below N when I kill it turn back on 5 minutes later needle is at top of N. Research says this can drop a valve seat. Someone needs to come up with an electric water pump to run on timer with the rad fans.
Research says to raise hood to let heat out, at home ok, anywhere else I don't think so.LOL
Research says to raise hood to let heat out, at home ok, anywhere else I don't think so.LOL
Normal on most any engine for the coolant temp to increase after shutdown.
At "top of the N" the coolant is unlikely to be hot enough to drop a valve seat...assuming the gauge is fairly accurate. Sometimes they're not.
A more likely cause of a dropped valve seat is a steam pocket in the cylinder head. This creates a hot spot around the valves and can occur even if the coolant itself is well within the normal temp range. In other words, coolant *flow* to all areas is just as important, or even more important, than actual coolant temp. That's why V12 cooling systems need to be clog free, have good and correct thermostats, and be properly bled.
Open the hood if you want for venting of hot air. IMHO, if the cooling system is in good shape it isn't necessary. Surely can't hurt, though :-)
Cheers
DD
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macdoesit (04-14-2013)
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Normal on most any engine for the coolant temp to increase after shutdown.
At "top of the N" the coolant is unlikely to be hot enough to drop a valve seat...assuming the gauge is fairly accurate. Sometimes they're not.
A more likely cause of a dropped valve seat is a steam pocket in the cylinder head. This creates a hot spot around the valves and can occur even if the coolant itself is well within the normal temp range. In other words, coolant *flow* to all areas is just as important, or even more important, than actual coolant temp. That's why V12 cooling systems need to be clog free, have good and correct thermostats, and be properly bled.
Open the hood if you want for venting of hot air. IMHO, if the cooling system is in good shape it isn't necessary. Surely can't hurt, though :-)
Cheers
DD
At "top of the N" the coolant is unlikely to be hot enough to drop a valve seat...assuming the gauge is fairly accurate. Sometimes they're not.
A more likely cause of a dropped valve seat is a steam pocket in the cylinder head. This creates a hot spot around the valves and can occur even if the coolant itself is well within the normal temp range. In other words, coolant *flow* to all areas is just as important, or even more important, than actual coolant temp. That's why V12 cooling systems need to be clog free, have good and correct thermostats, and be properly bled.
Open the hood if you want for venting of hot air. IMHO, if the cooling system is in good shape it isn't necessary. Surely can't hurt, though :-)
Cheers
DD
How do you properly bleed cooling system? I'm replacing hoses and have rad flushed.
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You're welcome, and scroll to post #9 in this thread
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...ine-bay-36778/
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It is a complex system and it is really important to make sure that there are no air pockets left in there.
Remove both radiator caps and open the bleed valve at the top left of the radiator.
Fill using the correct mixture of anti-freeze and water into the centre filling point until liquid oozes out of the bleed valve.
Close the bleed valve and replace both radiator caps and run the engine for a minute or so to circulate through the system.
Repeat the process a couple of times until liquid constantly comes out of the bleed valve.
Run the engine up to temperature and switch the heater onto full to circulate through the heater system.
Check for leaks, let it all cool down and then top up as necessary; it should be about 3 inches below the neck of the centre filler.
Off you go with a cool cat!
Remove both radiator caps and open the bleed valve at the top left of the radiator.
Fill using the correct mixture of anti-freeze and water into the centre filling point until liquid oozes out of the bleed valve.
Close the bleed valve and replace both radiator caps and run the engine for a minute or so to circulate through the system.
Repeat the process a couple of times until liquid constantly comes out of the bleed valve.
Run the engine up to temperature and switch the heater onto full to circulate through the heater system.
Check for leaks, let it all cool down and then top up as necessary; it should be about 3 inches below the neck of the centre filler.
Off you go with a cool cat!
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Dougs method also suggests raising the front of the car up. Thats how I did it. Even doing it properly, you may need to do it a few more times to be perfect. Based on the difficulty, I prefer to save up any cooling system work and do it all in one go with one bleeding session, rather than bit by bit.
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70* ambient heat gauge needle running about 3/16" below N driving. When parked idle aux fan kicks on when needle gets to bottom of N turns off when needle gets 1/8" below N. Doing much better now. Wonder how it will do when ambient temp is 103 plus* with AC on ?
This morning ambient 48* driving needle stayed half way between C and N.
This morning ambient 48* driving needle stayed half way between C and N.
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It might struggle to keep temp under control in traffic. That was my experience, at least, when ambient conditions got that high.
Mine cooled fine in moderate temps regardless of driving conditions, and fine in 100+F temps if I was rolling right along. In *city traffic*, though, at 90-100ºF ambient, the needle would start creeping up. Never boiled over or even close...but there wasn't enough capacity to truly maintain coolant temp in those conditions
Others have reported better from their XJS, others worse.
Cheers
DD
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It might struggle to keep temp under control in traffic. That was my experience, at least, when ambient conditions got that high.
Mine cooled fine in moderate temps regardless of driving conditions, and fine in 100+F temps if I was rolling right along. In *city traffic*, though, at 90-100ºF ambient, the needle would start creeping up. Never boiled over or even close...but there wasn't enough capacity to truly maintain coolant temp in those conditions
Others have reported better from their XJS, others worse.
Cheers
DD
Mine cooled fine in moderate temps regardless of driving conditions, and fine in 100+F temps if I was rolling right along. In *city traffic*, though, at 90-100ºF ambient, the needle would start creeping up. Never boiled over or even close...but there wasn't enough capacity to truly maintain coolant temp in those conditions
Others have reported better from their XJS, others worse.
Cheers
DD
All my Chevy's stay same temp from freezing to Hot as hell in bumper to bumper traffic ?????????
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