XJS ( X27 ) 1975 - 1996 3.6 4.0 5.3 6.0

Xjs full led instrument swap

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #21  
Old 02-10-2013, 10:05 PM
buddyluv's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Maplewood, n.j.
Posts: 248
Received 63 Likes on 33 Posts
Default Huh?

Anyone know what that trailor looking indicator is for. I noticed it when I was detailing them.Bud
 
  #22  
Old 02-11-2013, 12:00 AM
northern's Avatar
Member
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: wasilla alaska
Posts: 49
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

all leds that i have seen will not dim if you want them to, just flicker and go out
 
  #23  
Old 02-11-2013, 01:42 AM
Greg in France's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: France
Posts: 13,357
Received 9,116 Likes on 5,368 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by buddyluv
The warning lights are the upper sockets that use smaller bulbs there are 17 of these, but if they are replaced by LEDs they should be white as the indicator sybols are already printed on colored plastic.
Great pics Bud. All you wrote 100%. I have never changed the row of warning light bulbs, they are tiny, capless 1.2 watt each. And quite invisible in daylight! See here for example and bulb reference number:

EB286 286 Car Capless bulb 12volt 1.2 Watt Pack of 10 | eBay

I would love to have brighter ones, if available, but LEDs would have to be the thing as I am sure higher wattage would melt their tiny plastic compartments. Anyone got any ideas?

What I did do was wire two brighter external green repeaters for the turn signals, in parallel with the standard bulbs, into the end covers of the warning llight strip, as these are both not bright enough, are hidden behind the wheel and easy to forget. See each side in this photo:



Greg
 
Attached Thumbnails Xjs full led instrument swap-img_0031.jpg  
  #24  
Old 02-11-2013, 03:35 AM
Greg in France's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: France
Posts: 13,357
Received 9,116 Likes on 5,368 Posts
Default

Replacement LED Warning light bulbs

Bud, Guys
It's raining so I hit the Great Google. Came up with these which should repeat should, be direct fit into the warning light strip. After a bit of a search I found some white ones.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-Bulbs-L...item589b8f9a1d

The swap is quite easy to try as changing the warning light strip bulbs is just a matter of removing the strip of coloured plastic covering the bulbs, not an instruments out job. then the bulbs just pull out of their holders.

I have orders some and will post how they go in, if at all.

Greg
 

Last edited by Greg in France; 02-11-2013 at 03:47 AM.
The following users liked this post:
buddyluv (02-11-2013)
  #25  
Old 02-12-2013, 05:54 AM
philhef's Avatar
Veteran Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 2,916
Received 513 Likes on 333 Posts
Default

I also ordered the bulbs to replace the warning lights. I believe they are the same led mentioned above. I never really had a problem with the existing ones.
Also waiting on the blue gage replacement led bulbs.
Since I have to remove the front section of the cluster to fix the wood fascia I previously installed, I'll be able to get at those green covers. Just hope I don't get "hot spots" without the diffuser green cover.
I did ask the seller about dimming and he said they should but we'll see. I do know the led strip lights do dim.
New question!
Are the instrument cluster lights part of the bulb failure system from rest of the car? When I changed my plate lights to led, I got a constant bulb failure warning constantly. I now have "error free" LEDs to try. They're totally different from first bulbs so I hope it workes.
As for dimming, I personally can't believe it would be necessary regardless of the brightness. I've been driving with barely any light up to this point! And the center console lights are bright but don't dim anyway! Never understood why the dimmer doesn't do any thing but instrument cluster.
 
  #26  
Old 02-12-2013, 08:53 AM
Greg in France's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: France
Posts: 13,357
Received 9,116 Likes on 5,368 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by philhef
I also ordered the bulbs to replace the warning lights. I believe they are the same led mentioned above. I never really had a problem with the existing ones.
Also waiting on the blue gage replacement led bulbs.
Since I have to remove the front section of the cluster to fix the wood fascia I previously installed, I'll be able to get at those green covers. Just hope I don't get "hot spots" without the diffuser green cover.

You won't. I removed them on a 3.6, installed 5 watt bulbs and I had and no problems.

New question!
Are the instrument cluster lights part of the bulb failure system from rest of the car?
No

As for dimming, I personally can't believe it would be necessary regardless of the brightness. I've been driving with barely any light up to this point! And the center console lights are bright but don't dim anyway! Never understood why the dimmer doesn't do any thing but instrument cluster.
Dimmer not needed with no green things and 5 watt bulbs. I agree it seems most unlikely the instruments could be too bright, but do not know about LEDs, so we await your verdict, Phil !
Greg
 
  #27  
Old 02-15-2013, 02:25 PM
philhef's Avatar
Veteran Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 2,916
Received 513 Likes on 333 Posts
Default

OK!! Just finished the blue led swap out. I removed the black front of the housing and unscrewed the green covers. A couple are a bit dodgy to get out!
Swapped the bulbs for four light blue LED's AND added a 4" strip of blue led to the inside center of each large gage. Wanted to be sure to get enough light.
ONE THING! Don't put back together until you test it. I had 3 bulbs wrong, neg to pos, pos to neg. THe LED's do have to be plugged in one way. So if you test first before you put black front panel back on, you can see which ones are plugged in wrong!!
This photo is in my garage and not totally dark but I can tell it'e going to be AMAZING!!
Now if my computer geek of a brother CAN change the trip computer bulbs for me, It'll be really HOT!

[IMG][/IMG]
[IMG][/IMG]
 
Attached Thumbnails Xjs full led instrument swap-image_zpsb5fbab87.jpg   Xjs full led instrument swap-image_zpsca7fb687.jpg  
  #28  
Old 02-15-2013, 10:29 PM
philhef's Avatar
Veteran Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 2,916
Received 513 Likes on 333 Posts
Default

At night, you loose the red sections on the gages but who cares!! It is amazing!!
 
  #29  
Old 02-15-2013, 10:46 PM
philhef's Avatar
Veteran Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 2,916
Received 513 Likes on 333 Posts
Default

Now, can anyone tell me how to change the switches beside the trip computer. They are barely lit but I want to swap to blue too
 
  #30  
Old 02-16-2013, 01:57 AM
Greg in France's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: France
Posts: 13,357
Received 9,116 Likes on 5,368 Posts
Default

Instruments look terrific Phil. Could you please explain about where exactly you placed the LED strips?

Also, do they dim,

Congratulations

Greg
 
  #31  
Old 02-16-2013, 06:45 AM
philhef's Avatar
Veteran Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 2,916
Received 513 Likes on 333 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by philhef
Now, can anyone tell me how to change the switches beside the trip computer. They are barely lit but I want to swap to blue too
I'll post photo of the strip. Basically on the rpm it's between 6 and 9 (on a clock) mph it's between 3 and 6.
No, they don't dim but really not necessary as they aren't too bright.
Any idea as to changing the lights in either the center switches or the ignition and light switch?
 
  #32  
Old 02-16-2013, 09:43 AM
Greg in France's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: France
Posts: 13,357
Received 9,116 Likes on 5,368 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by philhef
I'll post photo of the strip. Basically on the rpm it's between 6 and 9 (on a clock) mph it's between 3 and 6.
No, they don't dim but really not necessary as they aren't too bright.
Any idea as to changing the lights in either the center switches or the ignition and light switch?
The 'illumination' in the surrounds to the ign and light switches is by fibre optic driven from the opticell unit fixed next to the gear lever cluster. It is the same thing that gives the 'illumination' to the heater controls surrounds.

The trouble is that the fibre is only about 2mm wide and pokes into the switches from the side, so no space to get in a bulb or LED into the hole. The surrounds are a sandwich construction, a solid back and a front that lets light through where it should. I think that it is possible to prise off the back of the switch surround to reveal the front, light-emitting bit (the sandwich is only about 5mm thick, if that). I reckon you could somehow build a lightproof backing cowl and fix an LED strip or an LED into it. You would have to run wires to it, obviously.

Worth a play with (say) the lightswitch surround, and then roll it out from there. The ignition and light switches have space behind them, so a home made cowl is quite possible. The heater controls do not, so they would be more of a challenge.

Greg
 
  #33  
Old 02-17-2013, 07:00 AM
philhef's Avatar
Veteran Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 2,916
Received 513 Likes on 333 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Greg in France
The 'illumination' in the surrounds to the ign and light switches is by fibre optic driven from the opticell unit fixed next to the gear lever cluster. It is the same thing that gives the 'illumination' to the heater controls surrounds.

The trouble is that the fibre is only about 2mm wide and pokes into the switches from the side, so no space to get in a bulb or LED into the hole. The surrounds are a sandwich construction, a solid back and a front that lets light through where it should. I think that it is possible to prise off the back of the switch surround to reveal the front, light-emitting bit (the sandwich is only about 5mm thick, if that). I reckon you could somehow build a lightproof backing cowl and fix an LED strip or an LED into it. You would have to run wires to it, obviously.

Worth a play with (say) the lightswitch surround, and then roll it out from there. The ignition and light switches have space behind them, so a home made cowl is quite possible. The heater controls do not, so they would be more of a challenge.

Greg
Is it possible to put brighter led bulbs in the fiber optic system? My switches simple don't light up at night. It's so faint
 
  #34  
Old 02-17-2013, 12:26 PM
Greg in France's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: France
Posts: 13,357
Received 9,116 Likes on 5,368 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by philhef
Is it possible to put brighter led bulbs in the fiber optic system? My switches simple don't light up at night. It's so faint
I do not think so. The problem is the rubbish quality of the fibre optic system itself.

Greg
 
  #35  
Old 02-18-2013, 04:30 PM
philhef's Avatar
Veteran Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 2,916
Received 513 Likes on 333 Posts
Default

Ordered the green led replacement bulbs now. I like the blue but now that I can't change the other switches and such, I'm going back to the green. I think it'll be just as good as the blue since its far brighter and cleaner colored.
In the process of removing the green light covers, I must have done something to the rpm gage. I unscrewed the metal face to get a bit more access to cover screws and must have tightened to much when replacing.
I HATE these old clusters!! Sooo finicky.
 
  #36  
Old 02-20-2013, 10:05 PM
smgdata's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: San Jose CA
Posts: 682
Received 91 Likes on 66 Posts
Default

I just put in some amber LEDs under the dash they look soo neat!!
 
Attached Thumbnails Xjs full led instrument swap-photo-1.jpg   Xjs full led instrument swap-photo-2-2-.jpg  
The following users liked this post:
buddyluv (02-28-2013)
  #37  
Old 02-20-2013, 10:57 PM
buddyluv's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Maplewood, n.j.
Posts: 248
Received 63 Likes on 33 Posts
Question Neat

Where did you get the power from? Bud
 
  #38  
Old 02-21-2013, 01:07 AM
smgdata's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: San Jose CA
Posts: 682
Received 91 Likes on 66 Posts
Default

I tapped into the cig-lighter light for neg and i just found some red wire with 12+ under it and used that. they go on when the lights go on and dont get messed up with the dimmer switch.
 
  #39  
Old 02-21-2013, 06:17 AM
philhef's Avatar
Veteran Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 2,916
Received 513 Likes on 333 Posts
Default

I added blue strips under foot wells also. Make sure you tap into the cigar lighter light bulb, not lighter it's self. They won't dim though with the cluster.
I also added a small led under the arm rest in center console. It lights up the ski slope! Ran the wire under the interior plastic backing of lid and under the bin itself.
 
  #40  
Old 02-21-2013, 12:50 PM
Sarc's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: San Jose, CA, USA
Posts: 1,930
Received 535 Likes on 337 Posts
Default

I put white LED strips (probably about 12 leds on the strip) underneath the center console pointing down into the footwells......



It's kind of indirect lighting if you will. It looks quite nice a night. These are activated by the doors opening, not on all the time
 
Attached Thumbnails Xjs full led instrument swap-sarc-4188-albums-sarcs-92-xjs-v12-conv-309-picture-imag0418-17332.jpg  
The following users liked this post:
buddyluv (02-28-2013)


Quick Reply: Xjs full led instrument swap



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:50 AM.