2011 XK: who got successfully rid of coolant smell?
#41
08-02-2018, 06:00 PM
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Sending everything out.
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Cee Jay (08-02-2018)
#42
08-02-2018, 06:41 PM
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So lately, it's been "Here, do this" as I walk away and let more fit individuals do it. It IS easier to pay someone else. Just not as enjoyable as the tinkering.
#43
08-02-2018, 07:23 PM
Dave
#44
08-02-2018, 08:00 PM
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#45
08-02-2018, 08:41 PM
Yup, the WP was really wobbling. On the NA engine, it just took me time to replace it, in part because I labelled everything and of course had some resistance. If I remember correctly, I had a lot of trouble getting the radiator hose off.
Also, I had the smell of antifreeze even when the pully didn't wobble. Like you, I had the smell of antifreeze, but could not locate the source. Then after 5K miles or so keeping an eye on the WP, the wobble showed itself.
I don't know what it would cost at a dealer or indie, perhaps you can get the part(s) at a discount online. But I've noticed that you are quite concerned/exasperated/annoyed/disappointed. I bet any competent garage could replace the pump. Then you wash the plastic under-pan with a hose and the antifreeze smell will go away, and you won't be adding any antifreeze (my case). Life will be good and you'll fall in love with your Jag again.
Life is short and then you die.
Good luck.
wrair
#48
08-03-2018, 04:45 AM
Hi Wrair,
Thank you for the confirm. I mostly use the mobile view of this forum where, unless mistaken, I do not directly see the tag line.
Btw: Great discussion here, even if the subject is less pleasant!
Re do-it-yourself work on cars: I do some work myself. Eg. did the latest service/oil changes etc. on my Landrover Defender. On the XK so far only minor things: eg. change battery.
Best regards,
ter
Thank you for the confirm. I mostly use the mobile view of this forum where, unless mistaken, I do not directly see the tag line.
Btw: Great discussion here, even if the subject is less pleasant!
Re do-it-yourself work on cars: I do some work myself. Eg. did the latest service/oil changes etc. on my Landrover Defender. On the XK so far only minor things: eg. change battery.
Best regards,
ter
Last edited by Ter11; 08-03-2018 at 09:56 AM.
#49
08-03-2018, 07:20 AM
That is great, as you know willingness to lend a hand and willingness to get dirty is the hard part to find in anyone, the other skills are all learn-able from there(as long as they don't ask too many questions...LOL
Happy Friday,
Dave
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TexasTraveler (08-03-2018)
#50
08-03-2018, 09:53 AM
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Where exactly should I be looking at the front of engine for the water pump pulley wobble? The only thing I can see from the front passenger side is the belt with a flashlight. Do I need to take the engine cover off and do I need a mechanics mirror to get a better view? Is it closer to the center front? Is it the pulley with the belt? Thanks all.
#51
08-05-2018, 03:40 AM
Dear all,
Yesterday I had the endoscope in the mail so today I opened the hood for some research. First the handling of the endoscope was not that easy and I ran out of battery on the factory-charged endoscope. But after full recharge I gave it another go, trying to get a good view on the water pump.
Best approch seemed to be from right side of vehicle, from where I could get a quite alright view on the water pump pulley (please confirm: it is the pulley in the middle of the V-axis of the engine, right below where the the intake manifold hoses join and above the crank pulley).
At any rate I was watching out for orange stains. Please see the attached pictures. This is the view from the front of the water pump pulley approx sector between 8 and 11 o’clock (imagine the pulley is a clock-face).
My interpretation of the pictures: my water pump is leaking coolant and coolant residue is visible as orange stains on the back side of the pulley and the engine block facing the pulley. Note also the small drop of orange liquid in both pictures.
Btw: These pictures were taken after the car was sitting in the garage for a couple of days and was just started for a minute before to get it in a better position in the garage for the endoscope inspection.
Any comments or other interpretations of these pictures?
br
ter
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#52
08-05-2018, 07:13 AM
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#53
08-05-2018, 10:06 AM
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Just a suggestion::
As it's a pretty good bet the pump is on its way out, because the early pumps are crap, you could take the gamble and tell them to replace the pump at your cost but retain the old pump. If, once it's removed, the pump is clearly stuffed, you can then get the warranty to pay for the replacement (i.e. you were right, they were wrong). If it's a borderline case and they still won't pay, well, consider it as insurance against a cooked engine later, when you're out of warranty.
As it's a pretty good bet the pump is on its way out, because the early pumps are crap, you could take the gamble and tell them to replace the pump at your cost but retain the old pump. If, once it's removed, the pump is clearly stuffed, you can then get the warranty to pay for the replacement (i.e. you were right, they were wrong). If it's a borderline case and they still won't pay, well, consider it as insurance against a cooked engine later, when you're out of warranty.
#54
08-05-2018, 10:30 AM
Thanks for the feedback! The car will go to a Jag dealer soon to see what their comment is. Provided that I am right and the pump shows clear stains of coolant residue, ie. is leaking: What else would be needed to justify a water pump replacement? A complete failure of the pump stopping to work entirely and overheat the engine?
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ter
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#55
08-05-2018, 11:41 AM
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Thanks for the feedback! The car will go to a Jag dealer soon to see what their comment is. Provided that I am right and the pump shows clear stains of coolant residue, ie. is leaking: What else would be needed to justify a water pump replacement? A complete failure of the pump stopping to work entirely and overheat the engine?
Br
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#56
08-05-2018, 03:48 PM
Where exactly should I be looking at the front of engine for the water pump pulley wobble? The only thing I can see from the front passenger side is the belt with a flashlight. Do I need to take the engine cover off and do I need a mechanics mirror to get a better view? Is it closer to the center front? Is it the pulley with the belt? Thanks all.
The engine top cover definitely needs to be removed (no big deal, no screws etc). Then, I located the WP and a bright flashlight showed the significant wobble.
wrair
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#58
08-23-2019, 10:44 AM
Oil cooler
Hi all
I stumbled over the following thread in the ftype forum: https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/f...-220979/page2/
Apparently some ftype owners with V8s (basically same engine as the 5.0 SC) complaining about coolant smell and slight coolant loss were diagnosed a faulty oil cooler. Also our 5.0 engines have this oil cooler in the V between pistons.
It is not an oil to air cooler, which would not make any sense in this place, but it’s an oil to coolant cooler that should probably make sure the oil does not get too hot.
I have never read here in the xk xkr forum about anyone with troublesome oil coolers of these. Anybody?
My current status after water pump replacement is that car continues to have a slight coolant smell when hot in the engine bay. But coolant level - which has slightly been falling after the new water pump was installed (I it takes even up to 2000 mls before all air is out of the coolant system) - is now stable and no longer dropping.
Br
ter
I stumbled over the following thread in the ftype forum: https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/f...-220979/page2/
Apparently some ftype owners with V8s (basically same engine as the 5.0 SC) complaining about coolant smell and slight coolant loss were diagnosed a faulty oil cooler. Also our 5.0 engines have this oil cooler in the V between pistons.
It is not an oil to air cooler, which would not make any sense in this place, but it’s an oil to coolant cooler that should probably make sure the oil does not get too hot.
I have never read here in the xk xkr forum about anyone with troublesome oil coolers of these. Anybody?
My current status after water pump replacement is that car continues to have a slight coolant smell when hot in the engine bay. But coolant level - which has slightly been falling after the new water pump was installed (I it takes even up to 2000 mls before all air is out of the coolant system) - is now stable and no longer dropping.
Br
ter
#59
08-24-2019, 05:09 PM
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Yeah, took me ages to figure out where the damn oil cooler was. I haven't heard of any XK problems, as far as I recall.
If you're still smelling coolant, maybe there is some residue from the original leak. I did smell coolant a few times after my pump was replaced, but nothing since. But that's a long shot - depends how much coolant got spread around and where it lodged.
If you're still smelling coolant, maybe there is some residue from the original leak. I did smell coolant a few times after my pump was replaced, but nothing since. But that's a long shot - depends how much coolant got spread around and where it lodged.
#60
08-24-2019, 06:02 PM
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Hi all
I stumbled over the following thread in the ftype forum: https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/f...-220979/page2/
Apparently some ftype owners with V8s (basically same engine as the 5.0 SC) complaining about coolant smell and slight coolant loss were diagnosed a faulty oil cooler. Also our 5.0 engines have this oil cooler in the V between pistons.
It is not an oil to air cooler, which would not make any sense in this place, but it’s an oil to coolant cooler that should probably make sure the oil does not get too hot.
I have never read here in the xk xkr forum about anyone with troublesome oil coolers of these. Anybody?
My current status after water pump replacement is that car continues to have a slight coolant smell when hot in the engine bay. But coolant level - which has slightly been falling after the new water pump was installed (I it takes even up to 2000 mls before all air is out of the coolant system) - is now stable and no longer dropping.
Br
ter
I stumbled over the following thread in the ftype forum: https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/f...-220979/page2/
Apparently some ftype owners with V8s (basically same engine as the 5.0 SC) complaining about coolant smell and slight coolant loss were diagnosed a faulty oil cooler. Also our 5.0 engines have this oil cooler in the V between pistons.
It is not an oil to air cooler, which would not make any sense in this place, but it’s an oil to coolant cooler that should probably make sure the oil does not get too hot.
I have never read here in the xk xkr forum about anyone with troublesome oil coolers of these. Anybody?
My current status after water pump replacement is that car continues to have a slight coolant smell when hot in the engine bay. But coolant level - which has slightly been falling after the new water pump was installed (I it takes even up to 2000 mls before all air is out of the coolant system) - is now stable and no longer dropping.
Br
ter