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Old 02-03-2017, 01:13 PM
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I have to admit, I love a good caper. Whenever I read about a massive Jewelry heist, I find myself rooting for the bad guys. I have no idea why. No one gets hurt and they are my diamonds gone missing...

The best ones seems to come out of Europe. Call it my dark side I guess.

JLR heist gang brazenly passed through security before incredible £3m engine theft - Coventry Telegraph
 
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Old 02-03-2017, 01:31 PM
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Wow....just wow. What's the purpose of a security guard again?
 
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Old 02-03-2017, 03:20 PM
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Crazy stuff... What people do never surprises anymore. Remember Jaguar's commercial, "it's good to be bad". When they get caught they can say, we were just doing what Jaguar told us to do.
 

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Unbelievable! But it happened. Methinks there is an inside person, how else would they know when and what trailer to pick up.

How do you sell those engines, is there a black market for new motors?
 
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Old 02-03-2017, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Sean W
I have to admit, I love a good caper. Whenever I read about a massive Jewelry heist, I find myself rooting for the bad guys. I have no idea why. No one gets hurt and they are my diamonds gone missing...

The best ones seems to come out of Europe. Call it my dark side I guess.

JLR heist gang brazenly passed through security before incredible £3m engine theft - Coventry Telegraph
Do you feel the same way about murders and rapes?
Maybe a good counselor will help your distorted views.
 
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Old 02-03-2017, 06:18 PM
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Unbelievable! But it happened. Methinks there is an inside person, how else would they know when and what trailer to pick up.

How do you sell those engines, is there a black market for new motors?
I think you can buy them on a back street in Hong Kong.
 
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Old 02-03-2017, 07:09 PM
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Do you feel the same way about murders and rapes?
Maybe a good counselor will help your distorted views.
Wow. Not sure I deserved that. Hell I'm not sure anyone deserves to be talked down to like that.
 
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Old 02-03-2017, 07:23 PM
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Wow. Not sure I deserved that. Hell I'm not sure anyone deserves to be talked down to like that.
Maybe a bit strong on my part, but nobody should take the criminal side. I'd be just a bit tiffed if someone stole all my stuff, regardless. In fact, I HAVE been robbed and I was not amused a bit by it. Granted it wasn't $4.5 million, but still.
Either Jaguar will recoup by raising prices or the insurance that pays out will recoup by raising rates. Either way, the consumer pays.
 
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Old 02-03-2017, 07:37 PM
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Wow....just wow. What's the purpose of a security guard again?
They are not security guards, they are security MONITORS.
 
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The thieves actually made two hauls on Tuesday nite by hooking up a tractor to two different semi loads. Amazing!!! Must have had inside info/help.
 
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In the end I'm sure we will find that it was an inside job. Having worked vehicle manufacturing, I know the general level of security that is employed. It would be quite easy to pull something like this off if planned well, but moving the merchandise after gets a bit more complicated.

So authorities will be looking at the transport companies, Jaguar employees....probably security as well (both past and present). It would not just be security that failed but who ever authorizes release. Usually, security has a list of which trucks will be entering and leaving for any given period.

In my earliest days, I replaced an idiot who thought he could get away with stealing a couple rejected tires. He threw them into a trash hauler thinking no one would know & he could pick them up at a landfill. The count came up short & they checked video, he even smiled for the camera! The story gave me respect for my new found job! Because it was an FTZ he got plenty of time in a federal prison.

Still, these guys have a bigger set than I do!
 
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Old 02-04-2017, 04:09 PM
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Well as it turns out, this isn't the first time it happened to JLR.

Jaguar Land Rover heist: Gang stole £1m of engines in identical raid three years ago - Birmingham Mail
 
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Old 02-04-2017, 04:56 PM
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Instead of a class action for the water pump issue maybe a group of owners has taken it on themselves to get replacements this way.
 
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When I worked at Browns Lane in the late 80's I recall Pete Dodd telling me a story about the disappearance of some of the dry sumped quad cam V12 engines that had been produced for the Group C program. There was a brick outbuilding on the Browns Lane campus that had a lot of Jaguar racing parts in it - C Type, D Type etc. and I think they'd produced 7 of the V12 quad cams that went into the Group C program. When they started to consider the XJ220, they went looking for the old quad cam V12s only to find that a couple had 'walked' out of the storage area at some point. Shortly afterwards I think they moved all the historic racing parts out to the company they were using to restore and maintain the racing vehicles.

I also don't quite follow the math of the loss - if a full trailer holds 40 engines, and the loss is 2 trailers (80 engines) then this values each 'crate' engine at 37,500 a piece which is a little on the high side unless they're quoting the full retail value as opposed to their cost price.
 

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There has to be some collusion for sure, but brazen heists like this are more common in the UK...
 
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The same crew was at the Super Bowl and stole Tom Brady's game jersey. Look for it on eBay in Europe in a few months.
 
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Originally Posted by Stuart S
The same crew was at the Super Bowl and stole Tom Brady's game jersey. Look for it on eBay in Europe in a few months.
Just heard it was assessed at $500K so it won't every be on ebay . There is a man hunt out for the thing so whoever has it better keep their mouth shut or drop it off somewhere. We might see a public hanging , LOL
 
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Originally Posted by jagtoes
Just heard it was assessed at $500K so it won't every be on ebay . There is a man hunt out for the thing so whoever has it better keep their mouth shut or drop it off somewhere. We might see a public hanging , LOL
I'm going to go with teammate, not locker room lackey.
 
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Maybe it's about time for that 5.0 SC swap.....
 
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Old 02-09-2017, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Stuart S
The same crew was at the Super Bowl and stole Tom Brady's game jersey. Look for it on eBay in Europe in a few months.
I told you that it would turn up in Europe!


 
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