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1) I met my wife of 7 years on match.com we have a lovely 2 year old son, and your comment honestly makes you seem like a bit of an ***. Although, honestly, I suppose there was a reason we were both there, but it had nothing to do with not being excellent members of society or some sort of societal rejects that noone else wanted.
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Right. The reason could have been good, you wanted to vet each other or busy individuals. Whatever, the reasons were correctly matched.
The reason a car ends up at the small used car lot is not the same reasons you are looking for. Its not a car that has been vetted or can be vetted- for obvious reasons.
Take that as advice or small talk. I have helped 2 forum members here buy their cars.
A PPI cannot and did not tell you the pedigree, the small things that matter, for instance if a car has sat outside all its life exposed to the baking sun...even if the dash was not bad, it would soon be on that car. The link that Sean posted, a car that sat covered in a air conditioned garage. It speaks volumes more than PPI or carfax. I mention this to be helpful in finding your next car. Whats the irony that at the same time you were doing a PPI on a car with obvious signs of intolerable neglects (no caretaker would live with bad top and torn seats, if not for some other misgiving) there was a deal of a lifetime right here. And the proof is in that pudding, that car is exactly where it was 2 months ago and the deal is gone.
Just look for signs of care and scheduled maintenance, its all you need to find a great car.
The seat ended up not being torn, merely worn, and I am fairly convinced the dealer did the shitty window fix and dash shrank there. There was a pretty comprehensive maintenance record at a jaguar dealer for most of its post CPO life.
That car for sale was beautiful. For 50% more. No doubt an excellent buy for someone wanting to spend that much and wanting a tan interior, but it doesnt really fit the budget (or lifestyle with a kid) as of now, perhaps it will if we reevaluate some things. May have to do it if that wish what it takes, but again, I would feel bad having a car that nice, because I wouldn't keep it that nice. I would drive it 7k miles a year as a daily driver for the summer.i would let some maintenance go until the end of the season, it would get scratched, be driven in the rain etc. If I was buying a dealer car for 28k, yeah, this conversation makes perfect sense. They are somewhat apples and oranges. Plus, it also relies of an owner of a cherished vehicle being willing to sell it which doesn't seem all that often in reality.
Your point is taken about knowing as much as possible about the car is well received and understood
The seat ended up not being torn, merely worn, and I am fairly convinced the dealer did the shitty window fix and dash shrank there. There was a pretty comprehensive maintenance record at a jaguar dealer for most of its post CPO life.
That car for sale was beautiful. For 50% more. No doubt an excellent buy for someone wanting to spend that much and wanting a tan interior, but it doesnt really fit the budget (or lifestyle with a kid) as of now, perhaps it will if we reevaluate some things. May have to do it if that wish what it takes, but again, I would feel bad having a car that nice, because I wouldn't keep it that nice. I would drive it 7k miles a year as a daily driver for the summer.i would let some maintenance go until the end of the season, it would get scratched, be driven in the rain etc. If I was buying a dealer car for 28k, yeah, this conversation makes perfect sense. They are somewhat apples and oranges. Plus, it also relies of an owner of a cherished vehicle being willing to sell it which doesn't seem all that often in reality.
Your point is taken about knowing as much as possible about the car is well received and understood
Having had a lot of time with these cars, I would just look for a high mileage one that has had the things that deteriorate in a decade already fixed. That will in turn give you years. And save you the 9k it can cost to do that 10 year refresh. Waterpump, injectors, dash, headliner, water pipes, differential, transmission. None of this is important if you can do your own work or are resourceful, it can be done for $4k- if they are ever needed. Many of them dont for 100k miles and beyond depending on the environment.
The secret to keep in mind when looking for a financial deal on a XK, a dealer cannot and will not sell a car at a loss, if he wanted to do that he would just run it through the same auction he brought it from and avoid the bad reputation. Only a private party will sell a car at a loss. In other words, the best deal at a dealer is worth less than his price, without question.
Last edited by Queen and Country; May 17, 2020 at 03:44 PM.
Having had a lot of time with these cars, I would just look for a high mileage one that has had the things that deteriorate in a decade already fixed. That will in turn give you years. And save you the 9k it can cost to do that 10 year refresh. Waterpump, injectors, dash, headliner, water pipes, differential, transmission. None of this is important if you can do your own work or are resourceful, it can be done for $4k- if they are ever needed. Many of them dont for 100k miles and beyond depending on the environment.
I can do MOST of my own work and highshigh mileage doesn't scare me (2 cars with over 100k currently) I was thinking here it might be easier to go lower and put in the sweat equity. I am looking at some higher mileage ones now, will see what group's opinions are as I narrow them down
I can do MOST of my own work and highshigh mileage doesn't scare me (2 cars with over 100k currently) I was thinking here it might be easier to go lower and put in the sweat equity. I am looking at some higher mileage ones now, will see what group's opinions are as I narrow them down
In that case just look for one where the dash is good, seats are good, and if its an XKR the diff has had oil change.
I added to my last post about reason to avoid used car lot in your case.
(I have 300k on my truck....all original)
Mark
I just saw this 2008 XKR convertible with 34.5k miles. Priced at $20k. Newport RI Sellers name is Jonathan Baron
I would forward the link but I rarely use Facebook so not sure how to do that. Maybe worth a look.
Mike
I would not buy a neglected or abused car for my own use. Don't care if the items can be fixed. Plenty of cars out there that were taken care of the way I would take care of it. Just as I want the next owner of a car I owned to know that it was cared for as it deserves.
You just need to be decisive and quick when that car is made available.
Mark
I just saw this 2008 XKR convertible with 34.5k miles. Priced at $20k. Newport RI Sellers name is Jonathan Baron
I would forward the link but I rarely use Facebook so not sure how to do that. Maybe worth a look.
Mike
Thanks Mike! I prefer the 2010-15 MY, but I will take a look! I really appreciate it!
FWIW, I would never rule out a well-kept and maintained 07 to 09 4.2L in favor of a 5.0L that was not cared for and needed work. The XKR has even a little more horsepower then the N/A 5.0.
In my own case, I searched out a well-kept 4.2L N/A because it was my preference even though I could have afforded a well-kept 5.0 L. I actually paid 19K for it and that was 1 or 2K more than I could have got some other examples for that were not quite as nice in my opinion. But it has now passed its second state inspection needing absolutely nothing after 10K miles. Still puts a smile on my face. Just comes down to personal preference but I think the 4.2 l are excellent value if you can find one you like.
FWIW, I would never rule out a well-kept and maintained 07 to 09 4.2L in favor of a 5.0L that was not cared for and needed work. The XKR has even a little more horsepower then the N/A 5.0.
In my own case, I searched out a well-kept 4.2L N/A because it was my preference even though I could have afforded a well-kept 5.0 L. I actually paid 19K for it and that was 1 or 2K more than I could have got some other examples for that were not quite as nice in my opinion. But it has now passed its second state inspection needing absolutely nothing after 10K miles. Still puts a smile on my face. Just comes down to personal preference but I think the 4.2 l are excellent value if you can find one you like.
it really just comes down to i like the interior design of the later ones. I have looked through some of the other ones, and they're are great older xkr models.but I would prefer the newer styling if possible
it really just comes down to i like the interior design of the later ones. I have looked through some of the other ones, and they're are great older xkr models.but I would prefer the newer styling if possible
I understand and get it completely, I would stick to your guns and just be patient, the right one will come up.
Thanks Mike! I prefer the 2010-15 MY, but I will take a look! I really appreciate it!
Sure. At least you have another point of comparison.
Those are great cars too and tend to have more conveniences than the 4.2s do plus just the fact of being newer can be a benefit.
Patience will pay off😎
No intension of insulting anyone here, but what's the difference in interiors of the 2010 onward aside from the darker buttons and the round knob gear selector? I've never really paid attention to the interior of the facelift models so I'm guessing there's more, just things that I wouldn't notice.
No intension of insulting anyone here, but what's the difference in interiors of the 2010 onward aside from the darker buttons and the round knob gear selector? I've never really paid attention to the interior of the facelift models so I'm guessing there's more, just things that I wouldn't notice.
Not sure, but do the seat adjustment switches in the 4.2 have nice metal trim around them, or are they solid plastic?
I do know that the 2010+ rear camera can be activated semi-easily, while the 4.2 models cannot.
Also something about audio, though I can't remember what exactly.
Nope, the seat buttons aren't purdy like that pic. That's what I meant bu "dark buttons" but could have been clearer. Agree that you can activate the camera easier, but still need friends in high places for the software hack, whereas I needed friends in high places for the software and ones with bigger brains to help me with the file changes.
I wonder if the J Gate had replaced the hockey puck shifter, would you think the J Gate looked better?
Newer is often perceived as being better looking. That's why you don't see older women in advertisements, unless they're selling Depends or other products for old folks.
I haven't seen a 5.0L XKR with an interior that I like better than the two-tone leather and wood interior of my 2009 4.2L XKR. Tastes vary, and that's why Jaguar offered black with tin foil.
