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Old 08-04-2018, 08:56 AM
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Yeah, I was never able to feel the thing with my fingers either. I put an angled mirror on the bore scope & could plainly see it then.
 
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I have this issue now with my 2009 XKR - can someone tell me where I need to go in from the top of the engine? Or, maybe I can't access it at all in an XKR without the bore scope? Anyway, if someone could tell take a photo and maybe point to where I need to go in to look for the duck bill, I'd greatly appreciate it... I think this also killed my blower motor and/or motor control module since no air will blow, fan doesn't work and local indie shop says I need a new blower motor - but I need to fix this damn duckbill first... anybody with an XKR successfully do this from the top with the bladed tool and a camera scope and/or by hand? Thanks!
 
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There are multiple threads regarding this issue with photos and instructions. Check out the search box upper right corner this page
 
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Originally Posted by ralphwg View Post
There are multiple threads regarding this issue with photos and instructions. Check out the search box upper right corner this page
Yes, thanks for the tip, I have searched which is why I'm in this thread - most of the photos are of the XK engine except one of the XKR but no indication of whether anyone with the R was successful at cutting off the duckbill considering all the extra engine stuffs in the way - anyone? I've gathered where the spot is to get at the duckbill on my R, but now have to get it on my pal's lift to see if we can perform the same surgery from the instructions on this thread from underneath the car.
 
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Your blower motor is probably fine. The damage is more likely to the blower motor resistor as the water causes a short that blows the thermal fuse inside the resistor. You can interchange the Jaguar version (Part C2Z6538) with the Land Rover version (BMR31677) - just search Ebay Motors, they are about $15-20. Depending on your proficiency with a soldering iron, you can also repair the resistor by replacing the thermal fuse (EYP-2BN109) for about $5. The resistor is attached by two short philips screws and is in the same plastic molding that holds the blower motor. It can be accessed once you remove the felt pad under the dash on the passenger side footwell.
 
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[QUOTE=digband;1958825]I have this issue now with my 2009 XKR - can someone tell me where I need to go in from the top of the engine? Or, maybe I can't access it at all in an XKR without the bore scope? /QUOTE]

It is very difficult or impossible to access the duckbill from the engine bay on an XKR. Since you have an XKR, the easiest way to access the duckbill is by lowering the transmission and accessing the duckbill from underneath. Access is not that difficult and you will have a permanent solution by cutting off the duckbill. Bring print outs from this forum to your local independent mechanic if you don't have the skills, knowledge, or time to lower the transmission. It should cost you about $300-400 max....an infinitely better option than removing the dash. You can see my post on this thread to see what the tip of the duckbill looks like once cut off.

Good luck!

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I have this issue now with my 2009 XKR - can someone tell me where I need to go in from the top of the engine? Or, maybe I can't access it at all in an XKR without the bore scope? /QUOTE]

It is very difficult or impossible to access the duckbill from the engine bay on an XKR.
This person did it:

https://www.jaguarforum.com/showthre...=1#post1120794
 
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The choice is to remove supercharger components in the engine bay OR to lower the transmission to access the duckbill for XKR owners. Both will take some time and won't be simple. Those of you who have done one or the other, what seems easier?
 
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Originally Posted by winstonsalemncxk View Post
The choice is to remove supercharger components in the engine bay OR to lower the transmission to access the duckbill for XKR owners. Both will take some time and won't be simple. Those of you who have done one or the other, what seems easier?
I certainly would like to know this, too... from some other threads I read, a few folks said dropping the gear box was easier than the tranny.... or like you indicate there's the removal of the supercharger parts, though I haven't seen any photos or descriptions yet of what that procedure is like and how it works... will search some...

Thanks for all the continued advice and follow-ups...
 
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You's guys is all silly. Buy one of THESE and hook it up to your laparoscope setup. Cutting the duck will take about two minutes...

https://www.ebay.com/p/CE-Double-Act...osc/1548455614

No laparoscope setup? eBay has 'em!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Olympus-OTV...oAAOSwSrNaDcU6
 
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I bought one of these earlier in the year, just because it was cheap. It has variable brightness LED's on the end so you can light up your subject in dark nooks and crannies. You can also take pictures or videos on your phone with the app that comes with it.

If you wrapped the lead around a bit of wire to make it stiffer it would probably help you to do the job.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/KERU...2853385786.htm
 
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Hi everyone,

I managed to reach the duck bill on my 2009 XKR with my fingers by removing the right hand air intake pipe and the aluminium "T-Piece" on top of the throttle body. Sure enough, the opening was quite firmly stuck together and felt really gummed up. Once I reached it I sprayed my palm and middle finger liberally with plenty of silicone spray and kept flicking and manipulating it. After a few attempts I could feel the duck bill open and kept going until it felt really smooth and clean.

Only takes me a few minutes to remove the intake pipe and t-piece so I repeat every 12 months and not had another problem. Checked it a few weeks ago and the duck bill was still open and felt clean.

Cheers
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Originally Posted by Cee Jay View Post
You's guys is all silly. Buy one of THESE and hook it up to your laparoscope setup. Cutting the duck will take about two minutes...

https://www.ebay.com/p/CE-Double-Act...osc/1548455614

No laparoscope setup? eBay has 'em!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Olympus-OTV...oAAOSwSrNaDcU6
I'd rather borrow yours. At that price, it's cheaper to pay the dealer ... twice! And still have some money left.
 
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Originally Posted by u102768 View Post
I bought one of these earlier in the year, just because it was cheap. It has variable brightness LED's on the end so you can light up your subject in dark nooks and crannies. You can also take pictures or videos on your phone with the app that comes with it.

If you wrapped the lead around a bit of wire to make it stiffer it would probably help you to do the job.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/KERU...2853385786.htm
I just ordered one, even though my duckbill is still OK. It's cheap enough to add to my toolbox even though it may be a while before I have a need to use it. Thanks again for the tip!
 
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Originally Posted by GR8BR1T View Post
Hi everyone,

I managed to reach the duck bill on my 2009 XKR with my fingers by removing the right hand air intake pipe and the aluminium "T-Piece" on top of the throttle body. Sure enough, the opening was quite firmly stuck together and felt really gummed up. Once I reached it I sprayed my palm and middle finger liberally with plenty of silicone spray and kept flicking and manipulating it. After a few attempts I could feel the duck bill open and kept going until it felt really smooth and clean.

Only takes me a few minutes to remove the intake pipe and t-piece so I repeat every 12 months and not had another problem. Checked it a few weeks ago and the duck bill was still open and felt clean.

Cheers
Andy
I'm really glad to hear this - can you perhaps take some photos and post them to help me identify and remove "the right hand air intake pipe and the aluminium "T-Piece" on top of the throttle body."? (any additional instruction/tips for removing these if it's not straightforward, and exactly where to reach in to access the duckbill would be helpful/appreciated, too!). My XKR is in storage until March but this will be top priority for me as soon as it's out as I just started experiencing the passenger water problem prior to Fall storage, which also resulted in blower motor issues. Just curious, why did you choose not to cut the duckbill off if you are able to reach it by hand? Thanks!
 
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