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My 2012 XKR is B46488 and my 2013 XKR-S is B49722. It appears BOTH are not the newest water pumps, however the R-S has not been super-ceded. What should we do when the water pump is super-ceded??!? Should I ask it to be replaced with the newer water pump under warranty?

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Originally Posted by Lothar52 View Post
My 2012 XKR is B46488 and my 2013 XKR-S is B49722. It appears BOTH are not the newest water pumps, however the R-S has not been super-ceded. What should we do when the water pump i super-ceded??!? Should be ask it to be replaced with the newer water pump under warranty?

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They can only replace the water pump if it is leaking. I also know the latest version of the water pump will be available in September.
 
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They can only replace the water pump if it is leaking. I also know the latest version of the water pump will be available in September.
They are coming out with a new water pump this Sept for the XK?! I wonder since the engine is the same exact one in the F-Type R if it's for that....wonder if F-Type will fit on XK.
 
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I am looking at the workshop manual... I can not tell if the water pump component is inside the engine in that picture/or located outside in a more accessible area... Being such a car novice (however extreme XK lover nonetheless) and having no idea of the internal working of a car....does anybody know how easy it is to replace the water pump (for purposes of determining if the dealer is going to screw me with so called labor hours)? Terry's Jag parts has a newer than my current water pump available for 250 plus shipping (Not the newest however!).
 
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Originally Posted by Lothar52 View Post
I am looking at the workshop manual... I can not tell if the water pump component is inside the engine in that picture/or located outside in a more accessible area... Being such a car novice (however extreme XK lover nonetheless) and having no idea of the internal working of a car....does anybody know how easy it is to replace the water pump (for purposes of determining if the dealer is going to screw me with so called labor hours)? Terry's Jag parts has a newer than my current water pump available for 250 plus shipping (Not the newest however!).

The water pump is located outside the engine and bolts on. If you're going to replace your pump and you have no immediate need to do so I would suggest you wait to get the latest available pump. Their must be a reason why another revised pump is available.
 
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The water pump is located outside the engine and bolts on. If you're going to replace your pump and you have no immediate need to do so I would suggest you wait to get the latest available pump. Their must be a reason why another revised pump is available.
I agree! How do we know there is one coming this september... anyone have a part number!?!
 
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Thanks to all the knowledgeable for constantly dealing with my questions and babbling btw
 
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Ryan:

I am not sure that I would take the approach to start changing out parts on your car, in the fear that something might happen to your car, or that upgraded parts might be available.

As I have stated in the past, the more one reads these forum posts, the more the driver/owner can get a sense of fear, that something might go wrong with their respective Jaguar vehicle.

Many times, because of the style of the forums we are hearing the horror stories that raise concern for all of us. I would take the approach that every car owner, whether Jaguar, Porsche, Aston Martin, Lambo, Ferrari etc, that the owner take a pro-active approach to monitoring/inspecting their vehicles. That is on a regular basis, lift the hood, try to look for potential problems. Inspect tires, wheels, interior, exterior, etc. You will get to learn and know your premium car much better. You don't have to be a car/mechancial guru to do this. Everyday in life is a learning experience.

These are premium vehicles that we have and the Jaguar brand is known well for the so called electrical gremlins. In my service manual there is a picture of all the electrical connectors, modules, sensors on my 2009 XKR. I am sure they are not much different in the newer models. When I saw the photo I got scared and thought, no wonder there can be electrical problems, as the XKR is an electrical wonder. There are so many, I was amazed.

As for the hardcore parts like water pumps, fuel pumps, internal parts of the engine, most of the time, we as car owners can not possibly detect that we will have a failure of some kind until it occurs. So why lose sleep or sweat the possibility of a failure. In most cases they just occur, then we need to find a resolve or have the part repaired or replaced.

Just enjoy the car. You have 2 beautiful Jaguars and I am sure that they both get limited mileage, and most important they are under warranty. Why worry about something that might happen....and never does.

In the latest mess that we have read about BrooklynChris and his water pump fiasco, the bottom line is, the car was under warranty and he is getting a new engine. In a few months, time will pass and he won't even think about what happened in the past. His personal situation however does bode well to own a car, no matter what brand under a factory or extended warranty. That is why I highly suggest to anyone that is considering a Jaguar of an earlier model to make sure they conduct mechancial inspections and do their due diligence before laying down the cash for the car. Especially when the vehicle is out of warranty.
 
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Originally Posted by richzak View Post
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I am not sure that I would take the approach to start changing out parts on your car, in the fear that something might happen to your car, or that upgraded parts might be available.
Point taken Rich! I just wish we all understood whey some many different part numbers...what did they upgrade on these pumps? who knows...
 
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Gaudin has both "current" water pumps.... the current but earlier one is 200 something and the latest water pump at over 400... wonder what the upgrade was and the difference in price?!
 

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Hrm. I always have a whiff of coolant when bringing the car in. But I've only got 18k miles on my 2010 so... hrm. Maybe I'll have them check that this year at annual maintenance time.
 
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Originally Posted by Rahtok View Post
Hrm. I always have a whiff of coolant when bringing the car in. But I've only got 18k miles on my 2010 so... hrm. Maybe I'll have them check that this year at annual maintenance time.

Not to get yourself overly concerned, if you have a warranty, it might be a good idea to go in and have it checked as soon as you can. Smelling coolant is not the norm unless you have a very sensitive nose! Our water pumps can fail with low miles. My friend replaced his at 20,000 miles on his 2010. Good luck and let us know how you make out.
 
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That's it, now we add water pumps, to the electrical (battery related)issues and the TPMS related stuff, I'm selling all Jag related products and buy a Toyota Corolla! I'll live free, but ever so bored....LOl!
 
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Seeing these warnings, I'd get out my TorquePro App and see what the bluetooth OBD ll was telling me in real time.
 
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Bought my '10 in December 2012. had 24k miles. Checked with jag dealer, it had had water pump replaced twice! Car is still under warranty, I have had zero problems with it.
 
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Originally Posted by bobdr1 View Post
Bought my '10 in December 2012. had 24k miles. Checked with jag dealer, it had had water pump replaced twice! Car is still under warranty, I have had zero problems with it.
Twice in 24K is BAD. Now, I will worry about any longish trip in all my Jaguars. I already got the TorquePro app just because of this issue.
 
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Originally Posted by bobdr1 View Post
Bought my '10 in December 2012. had 24k miles. Checked with jag dealer, it had had water pump replaced twice! Car is still under warranty, I have had zero problems with it.

That is quite disheartening. Just shows that the water pump replacement has not been updated and even if it has the problem is not resolved.
 
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I will be having my 15,000 mile checkup soon and they NEED to CHECK the water pump... this is not acceptable even though I know whatever is made my man can and WILL FAIL... its just a matter of time.

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Originally Posted by Lothar52 View Post
I will be having my 15,000 mile checkup soon and they NEED to CHECK the water pump... this is not acceptable even though I know whatever is made my man can and WILL FAIL... its just a matter of time.

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My local Jaguar service manager told me that his techs will always check the 2010 XK+ when in service (for anything) for coolant stains or water pump leakage and will replace if observed.
 
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Originally Posted by bocatrip View Post
My local Jaguar service manager told me that his techs will always check the 2010 XK+ when in service (for anything) for coolant stains or water pump leakage and will replace if observed.
I hope mine does as well... I will be voicing my concern to do so!
 

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