There have been a few threads about the usefulness (or not) of the clone Jaguar SDD software and the Mangoose clone cable. However I don't recall seeing any photos of the SDD software in action.

My 2007 XK has several historic (intermittent) DTC logged which mostly seem to be related to vehicle configuration. No warning lights are on and all systems are functioning so I am going to leave well enough alone. My vehicle apparently was a pre-production model as it was built in January 2006 and the B00201 VIN is below the low end of the range commonly cited for the XK production run. So I am not surprised that there may be some irregularities with the various electronics modules not being 100% in sync.

Anyway, since my vehicle has some logged DTC, there exists some interesting data to retrieve via SDD. See photos which show the various ECUs present, and the DTC list. I also posted a couple of photos of the car itself, since I had not previously done so on this forum.

When running SDD, a requirement is to provide an auxiliary source of 12V power to the battery, since the car will be IG-ON for an extended period and the current draw is around 10A. I happen to have a 25A switching power supply which is intended for providing power to amateur radio transceivers, hence that is the source that I use. Similar power supplies are available in the $100 range or so. The official Jaguar power supply is rated at around 55A which seems overkill unless the 12V battery is seriously discharged.

I haven't been able to figure out how to retrieve vehicle sensor data via SDD (for example, engine coolant temperature). I also have not been able to find the mechanism to clear DTC. I did that once, prior to 78,277 miles - but have not been able to retrace those steps. So if anyone who has V145 can comment on either of those activities, please speak up.

 

You're not showing the full screen Patrick. To the right of the DTC's there should be a pencil eraser. Highlight the detailed code, then hit the eraser. It will highlight the code and another eraser appears. Hit that and it's cleared.

Alternatively, SDD will provide recommendations tab at the top of the page your on. One of them will be to clear all codes.

Also attached is the TSB for power supply as an FYI

 

Hi Patrick


Just to clarify your thought with the battery support rated to 55a. This is for programming purposes, as the battery voltage needs to be above a certain threshold when programming. Leaving the Battery charge/support unit in a " on charge " state with ignition on, the battery voltage can drop, causing problems during programming. Checking codes is fine, but if you are programming, it needs to be on a support mode.


In your first picture with SDD running, normally you will have tabs at the top, that say Session, Recommendations, etc.. Below is an example I did for a stop/start test. Granted this version is 149, 145 should still have these tabs at the top. Once codes are checked, you need to go under Recommendations tab to clear codes. In your picture, yours says it needs to update. Either you will need to update, or get an updated version. Or may need to do a restore on your computer to when you had this option working.


Hope this helps

 

Where do you find the TSBs?

thanks

 

Some TSB's are here:

JagRepair.com - Jaguar Repair Information Resource

 

Yep that's where I got mine but occasionally someone posts one here on the forum that isn't up a Jaguar Repair.

Here's some more info on SDD charger support. I use the Astron RM50M. Works like a charm.

 

55 amps for the SDD programming seems a way bit high, what are they programming an old tube setup?

 

What you're really looking for is to ensure a steady 13.8 VDC with minimal noise. For most piddly stuff using SDD, yes, it's likely overkill but easy enough to brick a module if you don't have the proper back up supply. These forums are filled with stories of bricking their modules and when asked, had either no power supply or lacked a sufficient one.

 

Surely a 20 amp non-switching power supply would be adequate Sean - I think the highest draw I saw while using the SDD was about 8 amps.

This is available for a third of the price:

 

I agree with you 100%. I am and engineer and cannot IMAGINE what could possibly be drawing WAY over 700W during programming. OTH, we are talking about Jaguars. There are enough horror stories of modules being messed up when not using the recommended power supply. If I ever find something that I want to reprogram on my car, I will take every known precaution to reduce the probability of seriously messing something up.

If you find another supply that works, or doesn't work, let us know.

 

I measured the current draw on my XJR, ignition on, but with everything possible turned off; a/c fan, interior lights, radio, etc, etc... 22.5A!

With the radio, interior lights, a/c fan and a couple of other things on it was 35A...

YOU NEED A BIG BATTERY CHARGER, end of story...

 

Cambo, what was the current draw with the car IG-OFF? I'm wondering what the 12V battery was drawing just by itself.

Thsnks!

 

The current draw with the ignition off is variable depending on if the car is locked, still "awake" or "asleep"

I don't remember the values with the ignition off, and I couldn't be bothered waiting the half hour for the car to go to sleep completely.

The X350 is a little more complicated because of the air suspension, the car periodically wakes up to check the ride height.

The current draw when the car is locked also depends on which security system you have fitted.

Short answer, there is no one answer to how much current is drawn.

What is important is that your charger can supply at least the minimum current as explained in that bulletin, for that model.

If the car is drawing 25A and you have a 15A charger, it will still drain the battery with the ignition turned on.

 

25 AMPS should be sufficient for the OP's car.

 

One would think and I started with a 30amp but found the draw (as judged by the battery symbol on SDD), went Red too often. Turns out 30 amp was peak, not constant. I went to 50 and don't think of it anymore. So yes, 25 amp constant would be fine for an 07 per the attached, but the cost of bricking a module is more than $100 so worth the investment for me.

 

Note that the spec'd power supply asserts an 80% efficiency and the AC noise is rated at 50 mV RMS. Sounds like a switching PS especially since the case doesn't look big enough to hold a power transformer for a linear PS delivering 55A @14V.
And my photo shows 10A draw when the car is IG-ON.

Agree, but I haven't tried to do any programming.

Makes sense, thanks for sharing all of the docs and your experience.

How do you measure powertrain parameters with SDD (when the engine is running)? For example, coolant temperature, ambient air temp, engine timing, etc.

 

I'm most likely gonna fire up the SDD tomorrow - I will check the current draw.

 

Strange, mine is a cheap 30 amp power supply from China that I bought on EBAY and I had had no issues with it during the numerous flashes I did while trying to sort out my tune. The battery icon stayed green the whole time and the little cigarette lighter powered voltage display only dropped by around 0.3v during heavy loads.

 

From memory and with the aid of some old screen shots, on the main screen select 'Measurement Applications'. You should then see a menu with all of the selectable options. Expand the entries to find the ones you want then I think you click on the icon with +/- on it to select each one.

When you have finished click on the icon circled in red on the bottom row in Monitor.jpg attached then where you see a black stop button (square) on that screen shot there should be a play button. When you click on that the graphs will start to be populated.

 

I believe you certainly, just sharing my experience. I was updating the Head unit which I believe takes an hour or an hour and a half. I don't recall. It also may have been the specific power supply unit I was using, but I definitely wasn't maintaining 13.8VDC as advertise. And I started with the same message as you.