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Old Jun 12, 2020 | 05:27 PM
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My car is going in for a new SC torsion isolator as soon as a bunch of replace parts arrive,to be installed as preventative maintenance while the SC is lifted off the engine. I also requested the SC oil be changed. The dealer tells me they know nothing about SC oil, never ordered it before, and it doesn't show up as a fluid in their inventory. I'm confused with so many members suggesting this be changed.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2020 | 05:46 PM
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Don . Power house UK whom make the supercharged units for jaguar , Recommend changing super charged oil EVERY 5 year or 50,000 miles . The problem is the oil evaporates over time , i know this as i called the company for advice here in the UK and spoke at length to a nice chap who was very knowledgeable on this subject on the phone . But trying to get this message across to other "Enthusiasts " is another matter , most seem to Blank this service item and follow Jaguars advice IE sealed for life . As we know of the trans box sealed for death . Sorry for the long story but i for one would not be happy with a garage that knows nothing about said fluid change and would be seeking another garage to perform this work who knew how to do it . My 2 cents worth
 
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Old Jun 12, 2020 | 05:52 PM
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Just seen your car is a 2014 model , I would not be overly concerned as long as your millage was not high and you treated the car well other wise then yes i peronaly would change this oil out seen as they have the supercharger off
 
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Old Jun 12, 2020 | 06:13 PM
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Just seen your car is a 2014 model , I would not be overly concerned as long as your millage was not high and you treated the car well other wise then yes i peronaly would change this oil out seen as they have the supercharger off
What is the recommended oil and what is the change procedure?
 
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Old Jun 12, 2020 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by George05
Just seen your car is a 2014 model , I would not be overly concerned as long as your millage was not high and you treated the car well other wise then yes i peronaly would change this oil out seen as they have the supercharger off
What is the recommended oil and what is the change procedure?
 
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Old Jun 12, 2020 | 08:28 PM
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Found everything I need to know: https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...-221427/page3/

Thanks, George


Hey, Moderator. Please add the above link to the sticky DIY section. It would have made it much easier for me. Thanks.


 

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Old Jun 13, 2020 | 07:22 AM
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And just for completeness here's the item in question that's needed:

GM Parts 12345982 Supercharger Gear Oil


I'm lucky as have 2 sealed bottles in the garage from 13yrs back when I had a SC'd MX-5/Miata and was lucky enough to pick some up for $5 a bottle when stateside. Unsure if it goes off and from what I've read it's refined castor oil

I am due to have mine off on my 5.0 as the original coupler is chattering, at the same time I am having:

1) Coolant changed to Evans
2) Stainless smaller upper pulley (I already have a smaller Ali one)
3) SC oil change
4) Bearings in SC changed

As the SC has to come out/in and I am supplying the oil and coolant they are charging me £1000+VAT which includes the coupler, smaller pulley, bearings and labour, which is quite reasonable IMO

 
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Old Jun 13, 2020 | 02:16 PM
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But @MarkyUK , I wonder if the spec for supercharger oil has changed in 13 years. Is it 100% synthetic now? Are there high temperature additives for prolonged wear and high speed friction. I’m not convinced 13 on the shelf is necessarily a good thing. What is peculiar as I reread my response is, I only use new fluids in all the cars... and drew the correlation that any oils in the kitchen are frequently changed too as they go off in a short time... crazy, I know.

but I do agree, for 1000, I’d get it done too.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2020 | 04:05 PM
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Thanks Guy, you're right of course.

If I can't find it cheap over here will.get my brother to send some over from.stateside.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2020 | 04:46 PM
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What is the preferred oil. GM ACDelco 10-4041 supercharger oil or Powerhouse Aviation Turbine oil? I think both are synthetic.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2020 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by DGL
What is the preferred oil. GM ACDelco 10-4041 supercharger oil or Powerhouse Aviation Turbine oil? I think both are synthetic.
At the risk of being shot lol the powerhouse would be my first choice , But understand it might be scarce in the states and others have used the GM ACDelco with no ill affects
 
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Old Jun 13, 2020 | 05:18 PM
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I think you'll find this thread helpful. See Don B's input with pics and tools.

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...change-222596/

Edit - sorry, this is for the 4.2 SC
 

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Old Jun 13, 2020 | 05:41 PM
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On the 5l very limited room to say the least , on DonB s thread on the 4.2l he had a bit at the end of his ratchet extension this alone is to big i even cut one them in half using a grinder and a vice . F ound the extra long allen key to be the tool but had to chop off half of the small end to get it in it is not a job for the faint hearted as you have to get the plug back in once the unit is filled
 
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Old Jun 14, 2020 | 05:46 PM
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I ordered a bottle, 150ml, of powerhouse supercharger oil. I don't know if the dealer will do the change, but I will ask them when they have the supercharger lifted if I can go in for 10 minutes to do it myself. The car only has 14k miles, but the fluid is 6-7 years old. My thinking is if I change it now with fresh new oil I'll be subjecting the bearings to much less wear.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2020 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by DGL
What is the preferred oil. GM ACDelco 10-4041 supercharger oil or Powerhouse Aviation Turbine oil? I think both are synthetic.
Me i would use the recommended powerhouse product " if " it was not available the GM
 
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Old Jun 14, 2020 | 06:24 PM
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Found this on youtube ok not a jaguar but why the hell did jaguar not make the drain fill plug easy access just like this
 
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Old Jun 14, 2020 | 06:25 PM
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Eaton same supercharger unit that jaguar uses
 
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Old Jun 14, 2020 | 06:34 PM
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That last vid the guy used GM supercharged oil . i dont for see any problems in using it as we share the same Eaton units another vid before bed .
 
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Old Jun 14, 2020 | 06:44 PM
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We have a ford engine in our cars
 
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Old Apr 4, 2022 | 06:01 AM
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Any other alternative oil apart from the AC Delco one?
I can't even find the actual oil specification for the AC Delco oil - like some sort of unicorn ****.

Checking out Eaton they use Nye 605 oil.

 

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