Exhaust
#2
I have electric cut out valves on mine and love them!
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...valves-217000/
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...valves-217000/
#3
I have electric cut out valves on mine and love them!
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...valves-217000/
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...valves-217000/
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A guy near me has an older Saab with straight pipes. Evidently he thinks it sounds great but it isn't. About the worst sounding ghetto piece of crap I've ever heard. He's an older guy (40s), moved into his parents' basement about nine months ago. I've considered using Expando-foam insulation inside his tailpipe some dark night.
It's horrendous, that gawdawful noise it makes.
It's horrendous, that gawdawful noise it makes.
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guy (01-01-2021)
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#10
A guy near me has an older Saab with straight pipes. Evidently he thinks it sounds great but it isn't. About the worst sounding ghetto piece of crap I've ever heard. He's an older guy (40s), moved into his parents' basement about nine months ago. I've considered using Expando-foam insulation inside his tailpipe some dark night.
It's horrendous, that gawdawful noise it makes.
It's horrendous, that gawdawful noise it makes.
#11
I didn't think Volvo fitted a V8 until midway through the noughties? A straight through on anything less than a V8 does sound a little tinny at town speeds.
I've no backbox/muffler and my XKR sounds rather nice, although at dyno it was down 17 horses, a remap will take that mod, my K&N's and smaller SS pulley into account, my Indy advises that I should easily see 560bhp, and close to 600 if I went for 200 cell cats.
The remap is £400, the cats are around £2k
Remap being done in the Spring
I've no backbox/muffler and my XKR sounds rather nice, although at dyno it was down 17 horses, a remap will take that mod, my K&N's and smaller SS pulley into account, my Indy advises that I should easily see 560bhp, and close to 600 if I went for 200 cell cats.
The remap is £400, the cats are around £2k
Remap being done in the Spring
#13
#14
a base XK is just so well made of a cabin, i found i can't really enjoy its V8 fully because most of the time the passive valves aren't open. without the muffler you get to hear it all, pretty much anywhere in the rpm/load range. i don't hammer it through 1st and 2nd to hear it roar every time a traffic light turns green. it now also loudly drones like any other V8 near 1500rpm to one degree or another depending on engine load and such. for the most part i just drive "around" that. 95% of my time i'm just going around town, no highway, and i already get under 12mpg doing that, so i really lose nothing by just downshifting to stay close to the posted speed limits but above 1500rpm.
so to answer your second question, for one, i'd like a little signature uniqueness on the car. something interesting, done by hand. two, i anticipate an eventual end of this work-from-home lifestyle many of us are in, and i'll be back in regular traffic and on the highway, listening to a drone whether i like it or not, probably. less pressing but still important is the additional concern that i'm now dumping hot exhaust directly around the diff case, and the car simply wasn't engineered that way. even if it's nothing to worry about, it isn't good either.
i know i could cut my muffler up, open those valves permanently, but i think i'd rather just sell that secondhand, or keep it boxed up in case the car has to go back to stock at some future point.
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Cee Jay (01-02-2021)
#16
the car? no, a difference in sound only. me? yes, different behavior.
a base XK is just so well made of a cabin, i found i can't really enjoy its V8 fully because most of the time the passive valves aren't open. without the muffler you get to hear it all, pretty much anywhere in the rpm/load range. i don't hammer it through 1st and 2nd to hear it roar every time a traffic light turns green. it now also loudly drones like any other V8 near 1500rpm to one degree or another depending on engine load and such. for the most part i just drive "around" that. 95% of my time i'm just going around town, no highway, and i already get under 12mpg doing that, so i really lose nothing by just downshifting to stay close to the posted speed limits but above 1500rpm.
so to answer your second question, for one, i'd like a little signature uniqueness on the car. something interesting, done by hand. two, i anticipate an eventual end of this work-from-home lifestyle many of us are in, and i'll be back in regular traffic and on the highway, listening to a drone whether i like it or not, probably. less pressing but still important is the additional concern that i'm now dumping hot exhaust directly around the diff case, and the car simply wasn't engineered that way. even if it's nothing to worry about, it isn't good either.
i know i could cut my muffler up, open those valves permanently, but i think i'd rather just sell that secondhand, or keep it boxed up in case the car has to go back to stock at some future point.
a base XK is just so well made of a cabin, i found i can't really enjoy its V8 fully because most of the time the passive valves aren't open. without the muffler you get to hear it all, pretty much anywhere in the rpm/load range. i don't hammer it through 1st and 2nd to hear it roar every time a traffic light turns green. it now also loudly drones like any other V8 near 1500rpm to one degree or another depending on engine load and such. for the most part i just drive "around" that. 95% of my time i'm just going around town, no highway, and i already get under 12mpg doing that, so i really lose nothing by just downshifting to stay close to the posted speed limits but above 1500rpm.
so to answer your second question, for one, i'd like a little signature uniqueness on the car. something interesting, done by hand. two, i anticipate an eventual end of this work-from-home lifestyle many of us are in, and i'll be back in regular traffic and on the highway, listening to a drone whether i like it or not, probably. less pressing but still important is the additional concern that i'm now dumping hot exhaust directly around the diff case, and the car simply wasn't engineered that way. even if it's nothing to worry about, it isn't good either.
i know i could cut my muffler up, open those valves permanently, but i think i'd rather just sell that secondhand, or keep it boxed up in case the car has to go back to stock at some future point.
#17
You say rolled like a wounded dog why because there are more valves and more back pressures that have been studied for? And for what reason ?
#18
Yep, I agree. Completely.
HOWEVER......
Any specific TUNE may require back pressure. ie; Tuned to match the more-restrictive airflow.
If you get a better flowing exhaust system, you also need the TUNE to utilize that better flow.
HOWEVER......
Any specific TUNE may require back pressure. ie; Tuned to match the more-restrictive airflow.
If you get a better flowing exhaust system, you also need the TUNE to utilize that better flow.
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MarkyUK (01-02-2021)
#19
although i couldn't tell you what exact gear i was in, i have heard drone from my XK at 1200 and at 1800 with the muffler off. i've made a point to glance down and check, just to be sure, before i finish researching this exhaust build. currently i believe there are some aftermarket cobra engine mufflers that should suffice but if there isn't space to put them in then i might, for example, go with straight-through glasspacks and helmholtz resonators. in which case i'd need to be sure to help my muffler guy out so we get the chamber volume correct.
anyway i'm typically in 4th instead of 5th, or 3rd instead of 4th, whenever i want to dispel the drone. it's not an exact science because engine load varies with a lot of things, including the incline of the road. i think any of those OBDII phone apps can give you a display of the value if you care to see it. i'm assuming our engines measure it and make it available.
https://mechanics.stackexchange.com/...oad-determined