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2007 XKR coupe. Headliner is sagging like its 30+ years old. Any tips on removing the headliner? I've replaced headliners in an 82 K5 Blazer and 85 Monte Carlo so the actual replacement part is easy, just not sure how to remove the headliner on the Jag and I don't want to break anything. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Very surprised the headliner needs replaced so soon on a high end car like this.
Its a pretty straight forward removal just take your time pulling free the trim that holds the headliner up these run along the side of the roof lining of both sides (these just pop out), be sure to remove the sun visors (star bit required) , the housing that holds the lighting (this just pops out) and the you'll need a screw driver to remove the shirt hangers in the rear .
Once I got it out thats when the fun started I just a good 2hrs scrapping all the glue off then took it into the trimmers the benefit of scrapping all the glue off was the fact he only charged me $130 to trim the headlining
Chadly,
The synthetic suede such as the one on my 2010 XKR, which goes by the fancy name of Alcantara, is available in over 100 colors for under $10 per running yard. It is 60" wide. I have used thousands of yards of it for upholstery, etc. for many of my customers. The last time I bought it a few months ago, I paid about $4.00/yd. wholesale, so if you can't find it for under $10, let me know, and I'll pick it up for you and ship it. What color are you thinking about?
I had it done last month. It was just under $700 for the entire job. It wasn't cheap and I didn't want to pay it.. But I only have a parking garage.. And it's 150 degrees in FL). I couldn't stand the sagging headliner.
Since I switched to suede, I had to also have the visors redone. I've heard they are difficult to reupholster for the average person.
He also said the rear part of the car was a tad difficult.
It turned out great. It took them 1.5 days
to complete. Looks like a 92 Chevy Lumina.
I just acquired a 2014 XKR-S. The headliner is called suede cloth and of course it is drooping. Jaguar dealer says it s $1300 to replace the entire piece and no guarantees as they probably made the replacement one just like the one that is in there, and it is backordered a year out.
So, how do I remove the one that is in there and I will figure out how to just reglue it using better contact glue? A previous post talked about the star screw and other items, but do the smaller upholstery items over the door windows need to come out and how do they do that? Are items just push-snapped in place?
Steve in Denver,
It's not a "a better contact glue" that will keep your headliner from sagging. The reason for headliner sagging is that the foam on the foam- backed suede cloth that is used has deteriorated and turn to powder so that the adhesive is no longer holding on to a solid piece of foam. There are many microfiber suedes available on the market that are thicker than the Alcantara or Alston knitted suedes that were used on the X150. One such suede called Passion Suede is one which over many years I have used thousands of yards of for upholstery for customers of mine. I have gotten it for many Jaguar forum members in the past at my cost which is about $5.10/running yd. X60" width. In other words, you need between $15-20 worth of materials to complete the job. If you do a forum search on sagging headliners for the X150, you can find examples of members who have done it themselves or had it done very reasonably with this Passion Suede. The colors don't exactly match the Jaguar colors but are very close. For instance, the black Passion Suede is slightly darker than the Warm Charcoal but if you're doing the 'A' pillars and the rear deck anyway in the new suede, everything will match anyways. Whatever you do, don't use a foam backed product or the same thing will happen again in the future. If I can help you in any way, let me know.
If you look at an old thread called "Replacement Suede for headliner," the second post on the thread from forum member Big Otter, shows his DIY headliner replacement with the Passion Suede. You might want to read his experiences.
I had it done last month. It was just under $700 for the entire job. It wasn't cheap and I didn't want to pay it.. But I only have a parking garage.. And it's 150 degrees in FL). I couldn't stand the sagging headliner.
Since I switched to suede, I had to also have the visors redone. I've heard they are difficult to reupholster for the average person.
He also said the rear part of the car was a tad difficult.
It turned out great. It took them 1.5 days
to complete. Looks like a 92 Chevy Lumina.
S Typer. Looks like a really nice job. May I ask the name of the shop that did the job as we both live in Florida. Thanks very much. BTY... You can get the seat belt labels for the sunvisors, if you would like everything to look original.
Chadly,
The synthetic suede such as the one on my 2010 XKR, which goes by the fancy name of Alcantara, is available in over 100 colors for under $10 per running yard. It is 60" wide. I have used thousands of yards of it for upholstery, etc. for many of my customers. The last time I bought it a few months ago, I paid about $4.00/yd. wholesale, so if you can't find it for under $10, let me know, and I'll pick it up for you and ship it. What color are you thinking about?
Hi @tberg
My headliner is gone and I am thinking of replacing it as a DIY project. I know this is an old thread, but do you happen to still have these headliners in beige?
Chadly's thread is almost 6 years old. Wonder if he ever got his headliner installed.
Still good information. I have one small 3" oval starting to sag at the rear / center. Not bad enough to do anything about it..........yet.
The head liner sagging problem is common in Jags due to heat and hummidity and the glue they used. In my XKR I bought this year same issue, I just ripped the old fabric down whilst I worked it out. As i am in the UK not USA I found a specialist that makes a complete replacement headliner board with what ever material you want. I got his synthentic replacement in beige. Now the removal of the old one is simple, pop down the dome light and disconenct the cables, unscrew the sun visors and all I had to do was unclip the top trim pieces whihc was simple no clips broke.
Now here is the crux of the issue Jag says to remove the old board you have to have the wind screen removed which is total crap, also it wont come out the boot. The chap I got mine from just said recline the passenger seat and if come out the passenger door. The replacement has enough flex in it to d othe reverse. All in all took about 1.5 hours to do myself and cost £252 for the replacement from Jag Headlinings. My car looks great now and the chances of sagging in the future are 0.
I did this procedure years ago, the thread made it to sticky status but here's the pics. You can call me should you have any questions 619-395-0970 Rick Tools used to remove rotten foam. In the process of removing rotted foam Slowly peeled back old headliner material, exposing the faulty rotted foam. Healiner removed looking toward hatch opening Headliner board removed Other side of the headliner board. top view of sagged headliner board View from open back hatch, on the left the C-pillar, on the right the back of the headliner board loosened. inside view of headliner board before exiting out passenger side. This if the way I removed the headliner board; lowered passenger window, open door. View of C Pillar headliner trim molding detached (enough to remove headliner board). Headliner Trim Piece- Note the angle of the black post below my index and middle finger. When removing, pull downward toward the center console, NOT downward toward the door.
BTW, I got the material from UFO, Upholstery Factory Outlet in National City, California, on the request of TBERG, and it was a perfect match. In California, I was limited on the spray glue that I could buy but I found a spray glue that worked and I developed a procedure to prevent bleed through. (The can says spray at 7-8 inches away. I increased the distance to 15" away, enough for the glue to dry in mid-air and land without bleeding.
Had mine done a few years ago by a local shop. Not perfect but used original material that was coming down. Matches perfectly with a few flaws. I was told it’s best not to use foam when replacing and it will last way longer.
Sorry I haven't been on the forum in a couple of weeks as I'm taking care post open heart surgery of my brother. I still have access to the Passion Suede that I have sent to many forum members. The color most usually coming closest to the "beige" of our cars has been color oyster. If you'd like me to send you a sample so that you can compare, pm me your address and I'll get it out in the mail. The last time I purchased some of the suede a couple of months ago, it was $5.10/running yardX60" width. I get it for forum members at my cost. Let me know and I'll do my best to help you out.
Thanks,
Ted
I just acquired a 2014 XKR-S. The headliner is called suede cloth and of course it is drooping. Jaguar dealer says it s $1300 to replace the entire piece and no guarantees as they probably made the replacement one just like the one that is in there, and it is backordered a year out.
So, how do I remove the one that is in there and I will figure out how to just reglue it using better contact glue? A previous post talked about the star screw and other items, but do the smaller upholstery items over the door windows need to come out and how do they do that? Are items just push-snapped in place?
I would get a quote from a local upholstery shop. They do this all day, every day. I followed this route with my convertible top and paid $600 instead of $1700.
My material is the original (beige) and was reused and reglued along with the A pillar pieces, rear pieces (pain), as well as the sunvisors ( real pain)... The next time around, which I'm sure will be eventually with Florida sun, I'm planning on going the black route and either doing just the center headliner or everything in black. That's the easiest was to go. (other than the sunvisors).
My headliner came down last year (2015 XK Coupe). Went to the Jaguar dealer and they wouldn't touch it - wanted to remove the windshield so as to not break the backing shell. The dealer did provide me the number of their "upholstery guy". He replaced my headliner for around $600. Did a great job.
Originally Posted by tberg
Sorry I haven't been on the forum in a couple of weeks as I'm taking care post open heart surgery of my brother. I still have access to the Passion Suede that I have sent to many forum members. The color most usually coming closest to the "beige" of our cars has been color oyster. If you'd like me to send you a sample so that you can compare, pm me your address and I'll get it out in the mail. The last time I purchased some of the suede a couple of months ago, it was $5.10/running yardX60" width. I get it for forum members at my cost. Let me know and I'll do my best to help you out.
Thanks,
Ted