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Old 06-14-2018, 02:54 PM
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hi all, recently I am going to reupholster my XK interior, and my choice for leather is one red leather called lipstick red, which I think is just amazing!

I visited a shop and the owner showed me one kind of red suede (just a swatch) that is used for headliner, and probably can match the leather red color, but I think there are some high end cars that have leather headliner, so now I have to make a choice.

since I haven't seen the real suede materiel I don't know if the color is acceptable, and I googled online and there are posts said that those suede used for car interior are actually called ' street suede ', which is synthetic not natural, but it is more durable. The owner said this kind of suede is used for rolls royces, Bentley etc, but I don't know if it is truly high quality.

I mean if I use the exact same red leather for headliner then there is no color match problem and the material quality is gonna be the same. Just wonder if anyone has seen any high end cars that have leather headliner, does is look good?

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I think getting the leather to stick and lay correctly around the visors and center lamp housing will be very difficult. I assume we're talking about a coupe as well. I'm not a big fan of the suede due to how the colors shift so drastically when you rub your hand across it. I'd be constantly petting the headliner as it would drive me nut.
 
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Old 06-14-2018, 03:49 PM
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I re-did mine with suede. I love it. Not sure what they call was on there but the replacement is very close in feel (even a little "plushier") and exact in color.



Leather would be cool but what Ranchero said....
 
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Alcantara?
 
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Old 06-14-2018, 04:18 PM
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The R-S has a leather headliner standard. Looks great
 
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Old 06-14-2018, 05:02 PM
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Suede....only way to go. Now from the opposing opinion......
 
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Old 06-14-2018, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by pwpacp
Suede....only way to go. Now from the opposing opinion......

From an acoustic standpoint its a no-brainer.
 
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Thanks for all your opinions

just got got the reply from the upholsterer and this is what he said( I ask if I can use leather for headliner):

No you can’t leater is not starching and shrinking so fast on sun

So should I just take his suggestions and choose suede?



 
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Old 06-14-2018, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by xialiulaoren
Thanks for all your opinions

just got got the reply from the upholsterer and this is what he said( I ask if I can use leather for headliner):

No you can’t leater is not starching and shrinking so fast on sun

So should I just take his suggestions and choose suede?



Interesting as I have the leather headliner option ($900) in my 2012 XKR convert. It's in the car and on my window sticker.
 
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Old 06-14-2018, 09:43 PM
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I have the alcantara suede on my headliner on my 2010 XKR, and last week I sent another forum member 4 yards of Passion Suede to redo his headliner and A pillars. It is every bit as nice and so inexpensive, under $10/running yard, width is 60". Depending on the source I buy it from, I pay anywhere from $5.00-10.00/yd, and it is available in over 100 colors. The other forum member used color oyster which he said matched his interior very well. If I can help you in any way, just let me know.
 
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Originally Posted by jagtoes
Interesting as I have the leather headliner option ($900) in my 2012 XKR convert. It's in the car and on my window sticker.
i also feel a little confused why he just doesn't think leather is going to work even there are many cars have leather headliner OEM.
 
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Originally Posted by tberg
I have the alcantara suede on my headliner on my 2010 XKR, and last week I sent another forum member 4 yards of Passion Suede to redo his headliner and A pillars. It is every bit as nice and so inexpensive, under $10/running yard, width is 60". Depending on the source I buy it from, I pay anywhere from $5.00-10.00/yd, and it is available in over 100 colors. The other forum member used color oyster which he said matched his interior very well. If I can help you in any way, just let me know.
hi thanks for letting me know that.

i wonder if you have any red color suede that you think will perfectly match this red leather I bought?

https://www.leatherhidestore.com/catalog/product/view/id/8891/s/hollywood-red-leather-hide/category/323/

the color is is called lipstick red, my favorite

also want to know if your suede is synthetic or natural?

thx
 
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It would seem nobody listens to me or tberg......
Alcantara
 
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Originally Posted by Cee Jay
It would seem nobody listens to me or tberg......
Alcantara
I do see your reply haha just don't know if there is any kind of bright red alcantara on market?

any suggestions about where to buy it? Thx
 
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Old 06-15-2018, 03:48 AM
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The "suede" is a woven synthetic suede, not cow skin. And yes, it comes in a bright red. If you p.m. your address, I'll pick up samples of the reds available and mail them to you. Then you can compare the colors to your leather, side by side.
 
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Originally Posted by Queen and Country
From an acoustic standpoint its a no-brainer.
Agreed. Looks nice too.
 
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@tberg,

Do you know if anyone has ever produced a color chart that matches Alcantra colors to Jaguar leathers? I'm looking for a color match to my Caramel interior and am struggling with the guess work that is involved with trying to match it.
 
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Originally Posted by mosesbotbol
Agreed. Looks nice too.

Do you recall our Maserati had a real Camel suede headliner. It was in retrospect a bad idea, it was real heavy, even before it got saturated with humidity.
 
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pwpacp,
Last week I picked up color Oyster, which is like a dirty beige color for forum member sovietkitsch, to match his XJ's interior. I had sent him some samples in advance, and he picked the closest one. When he received the actual fabric, he messaged me how good the match was. Having used thousands of yards over the years in my interior decorating work, I have several sources in downtown Los Angeles for this product, and if I can help anyone out by getting samples and sending them, I'm more than happy to do so.
 
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Old 06-15-2018, 10:04 AM
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what's that stuff called that looks like suede but isn't real suede? Starts with an A or something like that.





























 
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