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How my "60,000 Mile Service" cost $7,500 (and counting)

 
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When I purchased my 2010 XK about a year and a half ago, I understood that it was an older used car and that with over 50,000 miles on the odometer so a major service was due in the not-so-distant future. The XK is my first Jaguar and my first time owning a V8 or a with direct injection; I must say that I've been a bit taken aback with how much this car has cost to service:

Here's how my "60,000 Mile Service" has cost $7,500 (and counting! additional issues keep coming up)

- Replace oil and oil filter
- Replace air filters and cabin air filter
- Replace fuel filter
- Replace serpentine belt and tensioner
- Replace cracked air intake hose
- Replace brake pads, pad sensors, rotors and brake fluid
- Replace transmission fluid and fluid filter assembly (under strong advisement)
- Replace water pump, misc. coolant hoses and coolant; required replacing intake manifold gaskets (after critical leak)
- Replace fuel injectors (after being stranded)
- Replace engine mounts (cracked)

This list represents roughly $4,000 in OEM Jaguar parts and fluids plus over 30 hours of Jaguar Specialist labor at $110 per hour. What an eye-opening experience this has been.
 
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Old 05-16-2019, 02:14 PM
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It's the fuel injectors and engine mounts that really did it. Welcome to the world of premium automobiles. Budget repairs are mutually exclusive. Look on the bright side, it's still much less than sales tax and depreciation on a new comparable car.
 
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Tractioninc.

In your case the issue is 2-fold, 1.you are maintaining the car as a new car owner would i.e. paying retail for service, and in that case it is still a $105k car. So cost of ownership is the same.
2. You purchased a high performance car at the crucial 50k juncture where several things need to be maintained, and not again till 100,000. Such as transmission and differential, which is identical in just about every performance car.

But the bottom line is, any modern $100k car with 50k miles on it is only for those who are resourceful in being able to maintain it, either themselves or know how to get work done reasonably.
That cracked intake for instance, would have cost most of us about $5 and 15minutes with nylon glue. Same with the cabin filter.

There is another factor, as cars have become more reliable repair shops have become destitute and substantially raised their prices and expectation. They see you as godsend.
 
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Last year or two years ago I had my injectors changed, cost about $2k for that.
 
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You had your brake fluid changed???

I've put 200,000 miles on cars and never even had to top it up. The concept of changing my brake fluid is foreign to me. I know that brake fluid can absorb moisture from the air, but as long as the cap stays on the reservoir that's not an issue.

How much did the shop talk you into paying for this "service"?
 
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I've changed my brake fluid on a couple cars, mostly cuz it was 'ucky'. Constant, although minimal, movement over years and miles tends to abrase the brake components/lines/seals and contaminate the fluid.

I'd not pay anyone to do it unless it was like under $50 and I was wearing my good clothes at the time...
 
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Originally Posted by tractioninc View Post
When I purchased my 2010 XK about a year and a half ago, I understood that it was an older used car and that with over 50,000 miles on the odometer so a major service was due in the not-so-distant future. The XK is my first Jaguar and my first time owning a V8 or a with direct injection; I must say that I've been a bit taken aback with how much this car has cost to service:

Here's how my "60,000 Mile Service" has cost $7,500 (and counting! additional issues keep coming up)

- Replace oil and oil filter
- Replace air filters and cabin air filter
- Replace fuel filter
- Replace serpentine belt and tensioner
- Replace cracked air intake hose
- Replace brake pads, pad sensors, rotors and brake fluid
- Replace transmission fluid and fluid filter assembly (under strong advisement)
- Replace water pump, misc. coolant hoses and coolant; required replacing intake manifold gaskets (after critical leak)
- Replace fuel injectors (after being stranded)
- Replace engine mounts (cracked)

This list represents roughly $4,000 in OEM Jaguar parts and fluids plus over 30 hours of Jaguar Specialist labor at $110 per hour. What an eye-opening experience this has been.
Did you have all the work done at Hennessy Jaguar Atlanta in Buckhead? Their $110 hourly rate isn't out of line with other luxury car dealers, but I suspect that they raised their parts prices to cover the loss of revenues after Rolls Royce didn't renew their franchise. Their Rolls Royce dealership previously shared facilities in the same building with their Jaguar dealership. Tomorrow's News Today - Atlanta: Rolls-Royce Proves Evanescent in Atlanta

I agree with Queen and Country. Your 2010 XK cost almost $100,000 when new, and you bought it about a year and a half ago, probably at a small fraction of that price. Why the big depreciation? Because it factors in the cost of the maintenance and repairs that you just had done. It's now almost 10 years old and you now have an XK that's almost as good as new. Sure, $7,500 isn't cheap, but you now have a much more reliable, safer and better performing car that will give you many more miles of smiles!
 
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Originally Posted by tractioninc View Post
When I purchased my 2010 XK about a year and a half ago, I understood that it was an older used car and that with over 50,000 miles on the odometer so a major service was due in the not-so-distant future. The XK is my first Jaguar and my first time owning a V8 or a with direct injection; I must say that I've been a bit taken aback with how much this car has cost to service:

Here's how my "60,000 Mile Service" has cost $7,500 (and counting! additional issues keep coming up)

- Replace oil and oil filter
- Replace air filters and cabin air filter
- Replace fuel filter
- Replace serpentine belt and tensioner
- Replace cracked air intake hose
- Replace brake pads, pad sensors, rotors and brake fluid
- Replace transmission fluid and fluid filter assembly (under strong advisement)
- Replace water pump, misc. coolant hoses and coolant; required replacing intake manifold gaskets (after critical leak)
- Replace fuel injectors (after being stranded)
- Replace engine mounts (cracked)

This list represents roughly $4,000 in OEM Jaguar parts and fluids plus over 30 hours of Jaguar Specialist labor at $110 per hour. What an eye-opening experience this has been.
Mother Of GOD! My 2009 xk has barely 20k miles and dealer recommended 100k major service since car is 10 yrs old. Total just under $800
 
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By my calculations;

- Replace oil and oil filter - $85
- Replace air filters and cabin air filter - $100
- Replace fuel filter - WHY, and $400
- Replace serpentine belt and tensioner - $120
- Replace cracked air intake hose - $100
- Replace brake pads, pad sensors, rotors and brake fluid - $200
- Replace transmission fluid and fluid filter assembly (under strong advisement) - $350
- Replace water pump, misc. coolant hoses and coolant; required replacing intake manifold gaskets (after critical leak) - $1200
- Replace fuel injectors (after being stranded) - $3500
- Replace engine mounts (cracked) - $1500
Just over $7500, so not a huge markup for "dealer".

Actually, not really bad prices at all. SOME people have paid $2000 for a brake job, from shyster shops of course.

Like AJ said above, Injectors and Engine Mounts are the killer.
 
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Mother Of GOD! My 2009 xk has barely 20k miles and dealer recommended 100k major service since car is 10 yrs old. Total just under $800
Yeah I would be real skeptical of that.
You probably got shorted if they are going by ZF's recommendation that the transmission is sealed for life.
 
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Yeah I would be real skeptical of that.
You probably got shorted if they are going by ZF's recommendation that the transmission is sealed for life.
Why skeptical? This was at a Jaguar Dealer. Penske Jaguar/Land Rover....Not 3rd party shop.
 
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The life in sealed for life really means 10ys/120k miles. That's more or less what most car manufacturers consider the relevant service of the car. Beyond that you're on your own in uncharted territory. Look at the service schedule of the owner's manual of most vehicles. It stops around 120k miles.

So in a way it's true that the transmission is sealed for life and requires zero maintenance IF you go by their definition of life. Obviously most car owners have a different definition of vehicle life so changing the fluid is a part of regular maintenance.

Now the question is, does ATF need replacing based on mileage OR age like engine oil? Or is it strictly mileage based?
 
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Why skeptical? This was at a Jaguar Dealer. Penske Jaguar/Land Rover....Not 3rd party shop.
What did they do? what did they charge $800 for?
 
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Why is changing fuel card injectors so expensive,I am guessing injectors , gaskets etc $1000. How hard are they to do ? Did them on a 89 Vette and it was no big deal
 
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I don’t have my receipts handy, but I believe that for each injector was around $200 (online sources show a MSRP over $300).
 

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What did they do? what did they charge $800 for?
I'll have to dig out the receipt but off hand...
Oil change
spark plugs
air and cabin filter
Trans filter/fluid
plus other safety checks
 
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Did you have all the work done at Hennessy Jaguar Atlanta in Buckhead? Their $110 hourly rate isn't out of line with other luxury car dealers, but I suspect that they raised their parts prices to cover the loss of revenues after Rolls Royce didn't renew their franchise.
I had the work done at two different independent Jaguar specialists. For what it's worth, I called all the independent Jag shops I could find in this area and the rates I was quoted ranged from $95-135 an hour. I didn't call Hennessy because I wasn't really interested in taking my car to a dealer for service.
 
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Originally Posted by Cee Jay View Post
By my calculations;

- Replace brake pads, pad sensors, rotors and brake fluid - $200
Wow, what dealer are you going to? Even indies are quoting me more than that just for parts.
 
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I was thinking a single axle and didn't notice the 'pad sensors' so I amend my original calculation to - $500

Personally, I think that Shop Brake Work is akin to Pizza Hut.... super low cost, minimal effort and exorbitant pricing.
Hellz, I can do four wheels with pads, rotors and sensors in my driveway in about 90 minutes for about $150. Pads and rotors are hella cheap, and labor ain't stink.
 
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You had your brake fluid changed??? I've put 200,000 miles on cars and never even had to top it up. The concept of changing my brake fluid is foreign to me.
Please reconsider your position. In the past I have been negligent with brake fluid changes and suffered line and piston corrosion. It cost A LOT LESS to change brake fluid once a decade than do a complete brake job, with new lines and some new calipers. I learned from my mistakes, I hope you won't have to learn the same lesson the hard way.
 
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