It appears that I'm picking up my 2010 XKR on Monday, and there is only one key fob (previous owner said his ex took other one with her to **** him off).

Any good sources for an additional one, and how much should you expect to pay dealer or locksmith for programming?

Thanks, in advance.

 

Here's one on eBay:

Jaguar Keyless Remote Control Fob Transmitter Phob Uncut Emergency Key Bob | eBay

You need to get the emergency physical key cut as well as having the fob programmed for the car. No idea on costs, sorry.

 

That's a used one, IIRC these need to be divorced from the previous vehicle or they cannot be used again.
Can someone confirm?

 

Ted - I bought metal blanks (emergency) off of Ebay from an Illinois supplier and had them cut at a locksmith on Pico in Santa Monica. I'll bet you can find a fob on Ebay or Amazon. You might want to contact them regarding reprogramming the fob.

Congratulations on finally picking up your new XKR. Can't wait to see some pics. Regards, Ralph

 

The only thing I know is that you have all the fobs present for reprogramming - the programming process removes the association with any other fobs (so the vendor's ex can't come & nick your car). I haven't heard that used fobs need to be 'disconnected' from the previous vehicle, but it's a possibility. The workshop manual doesn't say anything.

 

Hi Ralph,
You had the tuning done by ETG ecu tuning in Beverly Hills? What are your feelings, price, suggestions....

Thanks

 

Had same situation with my 09 xk. Went to palm beach jaguar dealer, you can get fob with or without emergency key, one with key costs about $100 more. I already had key in other fob so didn't spend extra $. Cost for nonkey fob was $222 and programming which took an incredible 1 1/2 hrs was $224. All totalled final bill including 13 for ?waste disposal was $485! Only jag dealer can program keys I believe. One of my first questions when I bought 2010 xk was "does it have 2 keys"

 

You can only program the keys with the Jaguar diagnostic tool - dealers and independent Jag specialists have it. An indy shop should be cheaper.

 

On my 07 XKR dealer recently quoted $385 w/o key cut. Indy $250 without key cut. Like Ngarara said indy MUST have Jag software to do it.

 

It depends on the car, but I believe it is true for these SmartKeys.

 

The SmartKey has to be in 'default' mode to be programmable. That can either be because it is new or has been correctly unpaired by replacing the original secret code with a default code.

If you don't have access to the paired instrument cluster the SmartKey is 'orphaned'. It will be ignored during the programming process and is therefore only suitable for the bin as it can't be set back to default.

You tell the module how many SmartKeys you are about to program at the start of the process and if one is unusable the instrument cluster stays in autolearn mode until the correct number of SmartKeys have been programmed. It also expects to pair with at least 2 SmartKeys.

You can use this process to invalidate a lost SmartKey because a new secret code is used during each programming process.

 

Wow! That's a lot of technology just for car key security. Anyone else think it's an overkill? I wonder why Jaguar went to such an extreme. I know that most new cars today have smart keys that the dealer has to program, but are they all as complex as Jag's?

What if both keys go missing? Since you can't drive to the dealer, I guess the dealer has to come out to the car with the diagnostic tool to pair the instrument cluster to the new, unpaired SmartKeys using a new, secret code. What if the dealer is over 100 miles away? And you thought $485 per key was expensive!

 

Don't forget you can get blank emergency keys off Fleabay for $12-$15, and Ace Hardware will cut them for about $5.

 

Yeah, but that just gets you into the car - you can't start it without a valid Smart Key.

 

That's why I keep a spare fob battery in my glove box.

Even though a fob with a dead battery can be docked to start the car, I'd rather replace the battery. Quick and easy to do. And then you can remotely lock/unlock your car.

 

That, my friend, is a damn good idea! I'll bung one in there now, since I have a few kicking about (we use them in the remotes for our gate). For those who don't know, it's a CR2032 flat lithium battery.

 

Generally, how long is a smart key battery good for before needing replacement? Is it a good idea to replace it at a specific time like a maintenance item to avoid an incident? Once replaced is are good to go or is there any other programming required?

 

Fob battery life depends on the manufacturer and when it was made. I never buy CR2032 batteries online (Amazon) since I have no way to tell when they were made and the market is swamped with fakes. I buy them from my local drug store (CVS, Walgreen's) because I have more confidence that the brand in genuine and I can see the date of manufacture. A small premium to pay for peace of mind to know that the battery will work.

You should get a low fob battery warning on the dashboard to let you know when it's time to replace the battery. Or it might say "SmartKey not found". That's why it's a good idea to keep a spare fob battery in the glove box.

Once replaced, you're good to go. No programming needed.

 

Thanks Stuart.....Very good to know. Since I'm over the top cautious, I'll be going to my local Home Depot to get the batteries. I'll be replacing both of them before there are any issues.

 

Ted - I'm going to send you a pm. Regards, Ralph