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Old 05-28-2019, 04:46 PM
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Hi guys !
Got Eibach 20mm lowering springs installed
The car handles so much different now, more crisp and precise steering with much less body roll.
Now the problem is in the rear there is -2.2 negative Camber on one side and -1.3 on the other
Anyway to adjust this?
I tried finding Camber plates that are adjustable , so far could find none.


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Picture of what, the negative camber?
 
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Yes. Camber is cool.
Oh, wait, no, not that. Maybe this instead;

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Hi guys !
Got Eibach 20mm lowering springs installed..........
Course, seeing goofy stuff is always fun also.


 
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Old 05-28-2019, 06:52 PM
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On track, negative camber is a good thing! You can adjust toe and caster to get it closer, especially where you have over -2.2 but no one makes plates or top control arm extensions. Personally I have over 2 degrees negative on all 4 corners and it turns like it's on rails.
 
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Originally Posted by jahummer
On track, negative camber is a good thing! You can adjust toe and caster to get it closer, especially where you have over -2.2 but no one makes plates or top control arm extensions. Personally I have over 2 degrees negative on all 4 corners and it turns like it's on rails.
Jeremy the problem is left rear is -1.3 and right is -2.2
 
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Should be the same side to side. Per any difference I assume the shop would need to loosen all the suspension fasteners and see if they can get the sides even.

I also assume you could machine and install a 1-2 degree angled wheel bearing spacer but I'm not sure how much much difference the caliper would allow.
 
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Actually got my spec sheet at work and I'm running eibach 20mm lowering springs on a side not you don't realise how unimpressive the handling is on these cars until you put the firm spring in

Rear camber
LH -01.56
RH -01.64

So yes I also do have negative camber which is correct and it's well with in specs

Alex yours is just within specs max camber allowed is -02.25
 
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Originally Posted by steve_k_xk
Actually got my spec sheet at work and I'm running eibach 20mm lowering springs on a side not you don't realise how unimpressive the handling is on these cars until you put the firm spring in

Rear camber
LH -01.56
RH -01.64

So yes I also do have negative camber which is correct and it's well with in specs

Alex yours is just within specs max camber allowed is -02.25
Steve my problem is that left to right it's not the same at -1 difference between the two sides so that definitely must be addressed and - 2.2 is pushing it and it will hurt tire wear most likely
 
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Alex there is definitely adjustment in the rear I had mine adjusted from
LH -01.49 to - 01.56
RH -00.83 to -01.64
 
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Originally Posted by steve_k_xk
Alex there is definitely adjustment in the rear I had mine adjusted from
LH -01.49 to - 01.56
RH -00.83 to -01.64
Steve there is no adjustment in the rear I had to alignment shops check this
 
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That's a good thing you didnt let those two particular shops touch your car

Off the top of my head I know for certain there is a toe adjustment rod

Would have to put my car back up on a lift to see what other adjustments are there , however the camber can definitely be adjusted Alex
 
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Anything can be done, it just depends on how involved you want to be in the task. Looking at the parts diagram, it'd be a fairly intensive modification;

 

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Honestly a 1 degree difference should be easy to comp by loosening the hardware and tweaking the bushings. Probably just need to do the lower a arm to saddle bolt. Loosen it and shift the bottom of the carrier inboard as much as it would go. We do similar things all the time for shaft alignments on machines.
 
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As I said above you can adjust to compensate for camber you just don’t have camber specifically. I’ve gone anywhere from about -.95 to over -2
 
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Originally Posted by steve_k_xk
That's a good thing you didnt let those two particular shops touch your car

Off the top of my head I know for certain there is a toe adjustment rod

Would have to put my car back up on a lift to see what other adjustments are there , however the camber can definitely be adjusted Alex
Steve all that can be adjusted in rear is toe, no camber adjustments.
 
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Originally Posted by jahummer
As I said above you can adjust to compensate for camber you just don’t have camber specifically. I’ve gone anywhere from about -.95 to over -2
Caster on the rear? It's only front right? Only toe is adjustable in the rear as far as I know
 

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That toe adjustment rod will adjust toe correct but it will also adjust the castor also .
 
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Alex, Take a look at my thread when I installed the Eibach springs, you'll see pics of the car and alignment specs before and after. Something important to keep in mind regarding negative camber, while it improves cornering and track performance significantly, on the street tire wear may be impacted and more importantly steering will be affected, it will still drive straight but will require more steering input to maintain a straight line, especially under throttle, on cambered roads.


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Check the bushings, particularly the lower control arm to knuckle bushing. If this goes bad you will get bad camber. Happened to me and wore out my tire inners.
 
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