Hello All
This isn't a new request for the same stuff mentioned in detail on here.
XKR X150 - 2007, UK model
i have recently changed my condensor and given the car a service.
Got the pedestrian warning.
My Jag independent said the codes were showing issues with the bonnet actuators, probably caused by bonnet being open for lengthy amount of time.

Action:
I've changed the bumper pedestrian sensors for the new type, the old ones it seems will fail eventually and don't fancy nose off just as im getting ready to go to Le Mans (the main trip this car is used for).

I've unplugged all the connectors / greased with dielectric round the bonnet actuators and even swapped the airbags round.

I've got a CTEK optimiser on the battery to ensure its 100%.

Finally I've booked it in to local jag dealer to run the patch upgrade i found on this forum, thread unfortunately closed.

Im putting this story so far, and the resolution hopefully, up here for people's future reference.

Question:
I apparently need a Jag dealer with correct software to sort this. Is there a way I can get diagnostics with sufficient Jag software to do this myself? Not concerned with now but for the longer term. 3 garages including a Jag specialist failed me on the front brakes, so now ive resorted to having to do my own work on this car - not a problem because I've been doing this kind of stuff for 35 years. However I am limited by software, and know I'll need to have my own capability in the future.

Jaguar are pretty good with their own heritage, Toyota when I had my mk3 Supra were terrible- at the club we were having to help dealers to fix things.

Any advice on how I can become self-sufficient with diagnostics / software would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you

 

The original pattern sensors do appear to have a limited life but the later (and current) pattern are more robust. I recall my 2007 started displaying the pedestrian warning and I could clear it with Jaguar SDD but after 3 or 4 instances the code became permanent. An update to the later sensors fixed it.

Have a look at the OBDII Code Scanners ** Member Approved ** thread in General Tech Help for the combined forum wisdom on diagnostics:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/g...-%2A%2A-33347/

There's also other threads in X150 model forum about member's preferences and alternatives to Jaguar SDD (Symptom Driven Diagnostics).

Graham

 

Many thanks for the helpful reply, very much appreciated.
More digging on this excellent forum has led me so far to these: Icarsoft i930

However i shall read through the link you sent me with interest.
I cannot believe how technical this forum is. Other forums seem to either cover off what car mats to buy, where to get a service or the clever bloke telling you he's fixed the issue whilst not telling anyone how. I had all but given up :-)

 

The Icarsoft i930 has a good reputation and is used by several members as an alternative the the ageing JLR diagnostics.

You will find we also have model forums where accessory or best colour discussions head the topic list but X150 (and the earlier X100 model) owners tend to be more mechanically minded and inquisitive.

Graham

 

That is reassuring, thank you. On the strength of that and the further research and reviews I have ordered one, it arrives Thursday. I need the car for Wednesday for my Le Mans trip (albeit only to a house on Blackley because of Covid, but its free of wife and children so I can always pretend I'm in France) so I'll get the local dealer to clear the code on Wednesday giving me Wednesday night to put everything back together.

As for the accessory or best colour discussions - most amusing, although we all know the only colour is black - it actually produces the fastest car.

I am amazed by depth of technical knowledge in this area of the forum, priceless and a relief. Few people on another Jag forum getting alarmed about the rise in prices of our cars - be good to be able to avoid the gravy train from repair "specialists" that follows if this continues

 

Hi your dealer say "the codes were showing issues with the bonnet actuators" why you don't change it ? I've change right actuator and i've no problem.
What's the DTC code you have ?

 

It was a small independent i used for the first time, wasn't confident in his analysis of the situation. I got the clear impression he wanted the work without me doing it, I'll say no more.

Im attaching a photo, need to zoom in to see the issue. Ive had everything off and all looks well, i suggest it just needs the code clearing but i thought I'd go to an actual dealer to confirm on this occasion

I dont know what this pic is confirming, that the battery had low voltage? Ive had it on a ctek and im testing the voltage today.

Any input greatly appreciated

 

Do you think changing this would actually solve my problem? I'm being fleeced by a dealer tomorrow to the tune of £100. Be nice to not go down that route if anyone can confirm

 

Update- I've cancelled the jaguar dealership session. Bit of research suggests these actuators do fail, ive ordered one knowing its the same price as a diagnostic session at the dealer.

If its not this I can probably return it.

Furthermore my own diagnostic kit arrives on Thursday so i can do my own research.

Thank you for highlighting this, i don't know why i didn't think to explore this route. Every day's a school day

 

Taking code B1001 as an example. Jaguar use extended codes and you need the additional 2 AlphaNumerics to be able to pinpoint the fault from the 6 possibilities:





This is an extract from the Workshop Manual. If you don't have this, it can be downloaded from the "sticky" thread:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...guides-215509/

Graham

 

Thank you Graham, dissapointing that the Independent i went to doesn't have a device reading the full codes, like I said he didn't fill me with confidence.

Im expecting my I930 will display them based on what i have read.

 

Mine was B1002-11 and the ref is 6W83-16A916-AF

 

What did that turn out to be? Actuator or sensor?
EDIT - I JUST LOOKED IT UP, SAME PART AS I'VE ORDERED. FILLS ME WITH SOME CONFIDENCE. MY DIAGNOSTIC ARRIVES TODAY TOO.
THANK YOU

 

Here :


i've buying old part.
This picture is not good because the actuator has worked

 

Thank you Sovejag, i think its the same I've ordered. Much appreciated

 

Ive just used my new diagnostic tool for the first time. Im no electrical expert but im guessing the low resistance in the rh actuator points to the problem aa originally suspected

 

And here is mine...just waiting on the new one due to arrive tomorrow

 

Update:
Fitted new actuator, fault code still there!!!
Tried to clear it, no change.

Then i looked at the data, resistance is exactly the same. Looked online how to clear it and discovered I'd been sent the wrong piece of kit. The kit they sent me has a German reviewer stating you can't clear faults with this one, only data- useless.
My return has been accepted, but as I'm going to need the diagnostics as a lifeline im looking at tge higher spec versions.

Im off to stay in a holiday home to watch Le Mans for the weekend with a friend. On the other forum i found a very good independent who said, despite their 2 weeks waiting list, they'll happily clear my fault code tomorrow morning.

If the fault remains with low resistance (unlikely I think) then I'll have to consider damage to the wiring when i took the nose off to change the aircon - highly unlikely because it's the opposite end of the car

 

From which German supplier did you order?
I'm also shopping for a i930, and am looking at this one.

 

I ordered it on Amazon before I realised that was a bad idea for the health of the planet unless you like tax avoiding entrepreneurs who treat their staff like surfs on a medieval farm - I've since stopped being so lazy. The supplier was LJM Direct - comms were crap.

I ordered a replacement/ upgrade from Amazon, the supplier was SNG Arrow PTE Ltd - very prompt service, very good.
I ended up with iCarsoft LRv2.

i don't think anything was wrong with the other unit, i just wrongly thought I'd fixed the problem...eventually I did and the warning went away on its own, though i cleared the fault code with no issues on the new machine.
Like me the German reviewer of the other one clearly mistook the wording on the machine along with his failure to fix the issue. But the supplier did send me a different model to what I ordered and couldn't be arsed to explain or apologise.