Replacement brake questions
#1
Replacement brake questions
Just back from the dealer and they have recommended a front brake pad and rotor replacement plus brake fluid / flush and replacement.
The XKR Portfolio, 2009 (Non Alcon brakes) does have over 30K miles so perhaps I should not be surprised. What did surprise me was the fluid replacement on a 2009 ? Then what really surprised me was the cost $1011 !!!!! Oh my, need to get that cost down = searching for good after market or lower cost OEM products.
So, I searched the forum and can't find answers to- "what are good replacement rotors and pads". Perhaps there are not that many 2007+ that have changed front brakes ? Or perhaps all other Jag owners have money to burn ?
I saw the ceramic vs semi metallic - dust vs less dust threads/comments. But what I am really looking for is anyone who has changed front rotors and pads on a 2007 + XKR and if they have any recommendations on both the rotors and pads (and any parts providers) as I can't seem to get much "users" info. Regular driver - no track, drive an XKR as a regular about town car so not thinking about ceramics with their "harder pedal and warm up needed".
And oh yes.... Anyone think it weird to change brake fluid on a two year old vehicle ?
The XKR Portfolio, 2009 (Non Alcon brakes) does have over 30K miles so perhaps I should not be surprised. What did surprise me was the fluid replacement on a 2009 ? Then what really surprised me was the cost $1011 !!!!! Oh my, need to get that cost down = searching for good after market or lower cost OEM products.
So, I searched the forum and can't find answers to- "what are good replacement rotors and pads". Perhaps there are not that many 2007+ that have changed front brakes ? Or perhaps all other Jag owners have money to burn ?
I saw the ceramic vs semi metallic - dust vs less dust threads/comments. But what I am really looking for is anyone who has changed front rotors and pads on a 2007 + XKR and if they have any recommendations on both the rotors and pads (and any parts providers) as I can't seem to get much "users" info. Regular driver - no track, drive an XKR as a regular about town car so not thinking about ceramics with their "harder pedal and warm up needed".
And oh yes.... Anyone think it weird to change brake fluid on a two year old vehicle ?
#2
replacement brake questions
I just replaced 4 rotors and front pads (back pads were like new) Did the job in my garage for $600.00 CAN which included painting the calipers. Rotors are NAPA ultra premium groved with a rust prufe coating(nichel alloy or something). I think they are as good or better than what I could get at the jag dealer. They wanted $253.00 each there. The pads are Wagner Thermo Quiet semi metallic from Bumper to Bumper Auto Parts. I think I paid $44.00. While I was at it I replaced the air filter (behind the wheel well liner) cost $33.00 from Bumper to Bumper. Looks exactly like the one that came out and that one came from Florida, I am in Alberta Can. Makes you wonder how many part manufacturers there are making this stuff. I tell you look around this stuff is not rocket science. You do not have to go to Jag for parts, it is available elsewhere. Point of interest, when I was checking for pads, I was told that the cermaic type parts # had been reverted to a semi metallic part #, in other words the cermaic where not listed as available for the 07 XK
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#3
There are several good brands. I use EBC Redstuff pads, others don't like them. For me they are low dust, don't squeal and the braking/stopping is excellent. They are a combination of Kevlar and Ceramic particles. I replaced my wife's pads with EBC Redstuff and her first reaction after driving was "wow - they really stop." I have to wash her wheels every 3 to 4 weeks, and they are lightly coated with dust.
Akebono pads have been mentioned a lot and seem to be popular.
You can find the pads and rotors online from several places.
As to the brake fluid, if you need new pads on an 09 there has obviously been some serious braking...a lot of stop and go driving? If the fluid has been subjected to heavy braking and has gotten really hot, your pedal feels mushy and you have alot of travel you should replace it. The dealer could have just been trying to get more business. The fluid has to be inspected to determine if it *really* needs to be replaced. However, there is one thing for sure - replacing the fluid will not hurt anything.
Akebono pads have been mentioned a lot and seem to be popular.
You can find the pads and rotors online from several places.
As to the brake fluid, if you need new pads on an 09 there has obviously been some serious braking...a lot of stop and go driving? If the fluid has been subjected to heavy braking and has gotten really hot, your pedal feels mushy and you have alot of travel you should replace it. The dealer could have just been trying to get more business. The fluid has to be inspected to determine if it *really* needs to be replaced. However, there is one thing for sure - replacing the fluid will not hurt anything.
Just back from the dealer and they have recommended a front brake pad and rotor replacement plus brake fluid / flush and replacement.
The XKR Portfolio, 2009 (Non Alcon brakes) does have over 30K miles so perhaps I should not be surprised. What did surprise me was the fluid replacement on a 2009 ? Then what really surprised me was the cost $1011 !!!!! Oh my, need to get that cost down = searching for good after market or lower cost OEM products.
So, I searched the forum and can't find answers to- "what are good replacement rotors and pads". Perhaps there are not that many 2007+ that have changed front brakes ? Or perhaps all other Jag owners have money to burn ?
I saw the ceramic vs semi metallic - dust vs less dust threads/comments. But what I am really looking for is anyone who has changed front rotors and pads on a 2007 + XKR and if they have any recommendations on both the rotors and pads (and any parts providers) as I can't seem to get much "users" info. Regular driver - no track, drive an XKR as a regular about town car so not thinking about ceramics with their "harder pedal and warm up needed".
And oh yes.... Anyone think it weird to change brake fluid on a two year old vehicle ?
The XKR Portfolio, 2009 (Non Alcon brakes) does have over 30K miles so perhaps I should not be surprised. What did surprise me was the fluid replacement on a 2009 ? Then what really surprised me was the cost $1011 !!!!! Oh my, need to get that cost down = searching for good after market or lower cost OEM products.
So, I searched the forum and can't find answers to- "what are good replacement rotors and pads". Perhaps there are not that many 2007+ that have changed front brakes ? Or perhaps all other Jag owners have money to burn ?
I saw the ceramic vs semi metallic - dust vs less dust threads/comments. But what I am really looking for is anyone who has changed front rotors and pads on a 2007 + XKR and if they have any recommendations on both the rotors and pads (and any parts providers) as I can't seem to get much "users" info. Regular driver - no track, drive an XKR as a regular about town car so not thinking about ceramics with their "harder pedal and warm up needed".
And oh yes.... Anyone think it weird to change brake fluid on a two year old vehicle ?
#4
Thanks for the feedback PBCS004. I appreciate it as you are also in Alberta which makes the parts sourcing a little easier for me being in Calgary.
Any "tricks of the trade" with respect to the front rotor replacement. I only have had the car one week so learning it. Changed pads and rotors on other vehicles - just wondering if anything to watch for.
Interesting to hear you painted the calipers - guess you took everything apart. Did you send them out or paint yourself ?
Any "tricks of the trade" with respect to the front rotor replacement. I only have had the car one week so learning it. Changed pads and rotors on other vehicles - just wondering if anything to watch for.
Interesting to hear you painted the calipers - guess you took everything apart. Did you send them out or paint yourself ?
#5
replacement brake questions
in all fairness to my brother-in-law he did most of the work on the brake replacement but I paid for everything including the beer. I bought two jags he drives the 99 XK8 and I drive the 07 XK. He is now the designated mechanic. The installation was not any different than a Chevy or Ford, unless we missed something. The test drive so far turned out perfect. As far as the painting is concerned the parts that come off we painted on the bench but the main caliper was left on and painted in place. We did not want to disconnect the brake lines. We bought brake parts cleaner and wire brushed and sprayed clean everything and put on multible coats of special paint from NAPA. Looks great.
#7
In the end, finding the right parts from one source was a problem. NAPA could get the pads but not the rotors, Bumper to Bumper never called back, Canadian Tire could get pads but not rotors.
So went to the website advertised on this forum - Brakeperformance.com and ordered the premium drilled, slotted rotors with pads included.
Will post how the experience went and performance when I have some useful feedback.
So went to the website advertised on this forum - Brakeperformance.com and ordered the premium drilled, slotted rotors with pads included.
Will post how the experience went and performance when I have some useful feedback.
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In the end, finding the right parts from one source was a problem. NAPA could get the pads but not the rotors, Bumper to Bumper never called back, Canadian Tire could get pads but not rotors.
So went to the website advertised on this forum - Brakeperformance.com and ordered the premium drilled, slotted rotors with pads included.
Will post how the experience went and performance when I have some useful feedback.
So went to the website advertised on this forum - Brakeperformance.com and ordered the premium drilled, slotted rotors with pads included.
Will post how the experience went and performance when I have some useful feedback.
howd the brakes from brakeperformance.com work out?
if any1 else ever installed these breaks please feel free to chime in with how these worked out.
need new rear brakes & rotors for the XK, figured these might be a decent upgrade. any thoughts?
thanks in advance people.
#11
A Fluid flush is an annual thing for me as I am an aggressive driver, But Jag recomends every two years.....
Vince
BTW: A brake flush is a very "Basic" task for any auto mechanic and a quality job with top of the line brake fluid (Ate Super Blue) can be had for under $200.
Tools to do it yourself cost around 50 bucks or so....
Vince
BTW: A brake flush is a very "Basic" task for any auto mechanic and a quality job with top of the line brake fluid (Ate Super Blue) can be had for under $200.
Tools to do it yourself cost around 50 bucks or so....
Last edited by CleverName; 04-16-2012 at 02:03 PM.
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