Seat recliner not working (loose) XKR

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Oct 20, 2024 | 06:27 AM
  #1  
Hi All,

After a recent battery swap and an overly enthousiastic toddler pressing the memory buttons. The recliner function of my jag is no longer working. As many of these topics refer to the seat control module i have already investigated that, but it seems to still work fine for all the other functions on the 18 way seats.

To me it looks like the reclining part of the seat is somehow loose from the mechanical operating gears. meaning it is just hanging on the rear seats at this moment.

The dealer has quoted me with the installation of a complete new drivers seat.
Did anyone here already had an experience like this, and is it something that can be fixed without replacing the actual seat and just a the part that is broken?

Best,
NIEL
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Oct 20, 2024 | 09:14 AM
  #2  
Quote: Hi All,

After a recent battery swap and an overly enthousiastic toddler pressing the memory buttons. The recliner function of my jag is no longer working. As many of these topics refer to the seat control module i have already investigated that, but it seems to still work fine for all the other functions on the 18 way seats.

To me it looks like the reclining part of the seat is somehow loose from the mechanical operating gears. meaning it is just hanging on the rear seats at this moment.

The dealer has quoted me with the installation of a complete new drivers seat.
Did anyone here already had an experience like this, and is it something that can be fixed without replacing the actual seat and just a the part that is broken?

Best,
NIEL
can you hear the motor when either decline or incline is attempted? If not, then the seat control needs to be recalibrated.
WJ
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Oct 20, 2024 | 09:24 AM
  #3  
with the motor running and gears clattering…. some entity other then a dealer may be able to fix it. I’d try an upholstery shop.
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Oct 20, 2024 | 01:16 PM
  #4  
Quote: can you hear the motor when either decline or incline is attempted? If not, then the seat control needs to be recalibrated.
WJ
Yes, i do hear the motor working, but it is not catching the mechanism to adjust the seat
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Oct 20, 2024 | 03:35 PM
  #5  
Quote: Yes, i do hear the motor working, but it is not catching the mechanism to adjust the seat
too bad!
is the lean back fully reclined?
wj
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Oct 20, 2024 | 07:33 PM
  #6  
The magic words. Battery replacement. Seat back no longer working.= Repair by internal computer only. You need to go into the computing system with the SDD to re-engage the seat. Dealer or hacker.
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Oct 21, 2024 | 12:13 AM
  #7  
Quote: To me it looks like the reclining part of the seat is somehow loose from the mechanical operating gears. meaning it is just hanging on the rear seats at this moment.
If the seat back is truly disengaged from the motor mechanism, can you lift the seat back by hand? How far can you raise it by hand? Since the other functions are working, can you move the seat as far forward as it will go, and peek underneath the seat (from the rear), yeah, you will have to contort yourself. Look and feel for anything loose.
Yeah, maybe something broke, or got stripped, but then maybe some fastener came loose and fell out (feel around on the floor under the seat too).
You may end up taking the seat out, so you can examine it more thoroughly. Even getting some wire and making yourself an extension for the seat wiring, so you can run it while out of the car and observe to see what’s going on.
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Oct 21, 2024 | 03:37 AM
  #8  
Quote: too bad!
is the lean back fully reclined?
wj
Yes. It is fully reclined. Without using the handle to normally access the backseat I can now fully recline and move the seat towards the steering wheel.

Will have to go and take the seat out and carefully undo the upholstery to see what's going on then
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Oct 21, 2024 | 08:08 AM
  #9  
Given the lead up to your seat problem I strongly believe the issue is electronic not mechanical.
But that is an educated guess.
Many programmers can run the seat through a recalibration, some are quite inexpensive.
My NT530 handles this and much more.
wj
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Oct 22, 2024 | 03:45 AM
  #10  
Quote: Given the lead up to your seat problem I strongly believe the issue is electronic not mechanical.
But that is an educated guess.
Many programmers can run the seat through a recalibration, some are quite inexpensive.
My NT530 handles this and much more.
wj
Where do you think I should start if I am in this situation? Am in need of a calibration - changed battery. Is learning SDD way too complicated? Is there an alternative tool? People to contact?
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Oct 22, 2024 | 07:00 AM
  #11  
Quote: Where do you think I should start if I am in this situation? Am in need of a calibration - changed battery. Is learning SDD way too complicated? Is there an alternative tool? People to contact?
Umm, there was a suggestion right in the post you quoted, the Foxwell NT530.
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Oct 22, 2024 | 08:36 AM
  #12  
Very common problem resovled via seat module reset. JLR SDD can do it as well as SOME third party scan tools. Takes just minutes to fix.
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Oct 22, 2024 | 12:07 PM
  #13  
Quote: Umm, there was a suggestion right in the post you quoted, the Foxwell NT530.
Lol, right, but its a matter of spending $150-200 for a Foxwell device thats barely different from what I have, or I am using the free and obtainable SDD software. And that is IF there isn't a way I can pay someone to just simply remote in and just do it for me. My car has data and the ability to be remoted into. Considering all options but definitely not going to just jump on your first suggestion.
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Oct 22, 2024 | 12:28 PM
  #14  
Well, good luck. I am intruiged; a remote connection to an '07?! How?
With my positive relationship with one particular dealer, they have reprogramed the module pro bouno, while performing an oil change.
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Oct 22, 2024 | 12:32 PM
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Quote: Well, good luck. I am intruiged; a remote connection to an '07?! How?
With my positive relationship with one particular dealer, they have reprogramed the module pro bouno, while performing an oil change.
I have the 12" tesla android screen installed - and it has a SIM card tray. Have an unlimited call/text/data line setup on it for like $25/m. Since the screen is an android tablet programmed into a car stereo, we can install apps like Netflix and Youtube among a billion other things (teamviewer, VNC, any remote program) to use while driving down the road. The car technically has a phone number lol.
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Oct 22, 2024 | 12:42 PM
  #16  
Quote: I have the 12" tesla android screen installed - and it has a SIM card tray. Have an unlimited call/text/data line setup on it for like $25/m. Since the screen is an android tablet programmed into a car stereo, we can install apps like Netflix and Youtube among a billion other things (teamviewer, VNC, any remote program) to use while driving down the road. The car technically has a phone number lol.
Right, but it’s not going to reprogram your seat module. That must be done via OBD either with JLR diagnostics or a suitable scan tool.
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Oct 22, 2024 | 12:43 PM
  #17  
With a gateway interface to the ODBII port?? Or r/w access to all modules on the ICANN network? I've not heard of this.
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Oct 22, 2024 | 12:48 PM
  #18  
Quote: With a gateway interface to the ODBII port??
Is there an Android diagnostics app which supports Jag module calibration? Even if so, the aftermarket “Tesla” screen’s irrelevant unless the poster lacks a smart phone which’s unlikely. You don’t need remote tunneling to reset the seat module, it’s quite straightforward with the proper tool.
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Oct 22, 2024 | 01:02 PM
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Actual TESLAS can do this remote-in thing, but the 'Tesla' screen in these cases are only nicknamed "Tesla-Style" because of the very basic appearance. A large screen with a lot of stuff on it.
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Oct 22, 2024 | 01:07 PM
  #20  
Quote: Right, but it’s not going to reprogram your seat module. That must be done via OBD either with JLR diagnostics or a suitable scan tool.
Laptop using SIM data -> cord -> OBD port -> remote program -> seat calibration

Quote: With a gateway interface to the ODBII port?? Or r/w access to all modules on the ICANN network? I've not heard of this.
It is no different than me fiddling with my own car. Except that I have someone remoted into the computer doing anything necessary - in the instance we are using SDD or some other program. It is no different than paying a tuning shop money to literally tune your car from 1,000+ miles away. As long as there is a tool that they can use to fiddle with the electronics, anything in this life is remote-able.

Quote: Is there an Android diagnostics app which supports Jag module calibration? Even if so, the aftermarket “Tesla” screen’s irrelevant unless the poster lacks a smart phone which’s unlikely. You don’t need remote tunneling to reset the seat module, it’s quite straightforward with the proper tool.
As per the first thing I asked, not knowing if it was a foxwell task or an SDD task - if it is SDD it can be remoted. If it is a foxwell task, remoting wasn't even going to be considered.

I bring up the Tesla screen, because it actually is a computer. It is not the same piece of machinery (stereo) that came stock in these cars. The stock stereoes are terrible. Literally god awful. It being an Android, and me being an IT guy, I promise it can do more than anyone will ever realize lol. I can drive down the highway and be remoted into my computer at home and daytrade.
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