Some other cars I have been looking into
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No accidents reported, lower mileage and mostly better condition other than some inevitable issues with the dash leather.
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...4275/overview/
And maybe this one but lacking details.
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...1909/overview/
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...4275/overview/
And maybe this one but lacking details.
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...1909/overview/
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No accidents reported, lower mileage and mostly better condition other than some inevitable issues with the dash leather.
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...4275/overview/
And maybe this one but lacking details.
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...1909/overview/
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...4275/overview/
And maybe this one but lacking details.
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...1909/overview/
As for the second, I have reach out to him already, he is not a chatty man/doesn't respond to emails. I will call him tomorrow jusst to reach out, but the lack of any details has be a bit concerned to begin with!
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Sorry, here are a few more
https://www.truecar.com/used-cars-fo...011-jaguar-xk/
https://www.truecar.com/used-cars-fo...011-jaguar-xk/
And here is an interesting one that has had a complete exterior AND interior facelift to the 2012+ models which probably cost as much as or more than the asking price
https://www.discoveryautotampa.com/u...39cb266cd6.htm
https://www.truecar.com/used-cars-fo...011-jaguar-xk/
https://www.truecar.com/used-cars-fo...011-jaguar-xk/
And here is an interesting one that has had a complete exterior AND interior facelift to the 2012+ models which probably cost as much as or more than the asking price
https://www.discoveryautotampa.com/u...39cb266cd6.htm
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The 2010s had the new exterior and the 5 litre engine as well as the upgraded transmission. The seat control panel is also the new style. Also, it looks like it has the black pack. I don't know if that was changed on the 10s or not. Overall it looks pretty good. I would get the service records if I could. Having owned both a 2008 and 2012 XK, if it were me, I think I would take a real close look at the 2010 XKR presuming it could be within your budget and the mechanicals check out.
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I may how found the ellusive diamond I the rough. Let's see what they say.
Being sold by a jag dealer (the same jag dealer that worked on it and took it in on trade, so no auction)
2 owners
Very full service history at this dealership and 2 other jag dealerships,
2012 xk 58k miles
Black-black-black
Don't k ow the price and haven't seen pictures yet. I called them and had a discussion. Came in on Saturday through trade-in is going through the shop for their inspection today. I will hear from them this afternoon.
Long and detailed Carfax can be found Here
Preliminary thoughts on expected price? Nada says 25 for clean retail, which is the make of my budget, but I could use the money set aside for repairs assuming the car needs none this year (big assumption right now)
either way, will be interesting to learn more
Being sold by a jag dealer (the same jag dealer that worked on it and took it in on trade, so no auction)
2 owners
Very full service history at this dealership and 2 other jag dealerships,
2012 xk 58k miles
Black-black-black
Don't k ow the price and haven't seen pictures yet. I called them and had a discussion. Came in on Saturday through trade-in is going through the shop for their inspection today. I will hear from them this afternoon.
Long and detailed Carfax can be found Here
Preliminary thoughts on expected price? Nada says 25 for clean retail, which is the make of my budget, but I could use the money set aside for repairs assuming the car needs none this year (big assumption right now)
either way, will be interesting to learn more
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That would be good. Looking forward to their call back
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The CarFax shows a new water pump, which is good. It also shows 2 accidents, which is better for your negotiating position.
Accidents significantly reduce resale value even if the repairs are perfect. Try to get details of the repairs, and be skeptical if the dealer says they were cosmetic bumper cover refinishing and no bodywork. Get it in writing so you can get a refund if the dealer misrepresented the car. The dealer probably has at least a $5,000 profit in his asking price, and time is money. So he may go for a quick flip to make $1,000.
Good luck!
Accidents significantly reduce resale value even if the repairs are perfect. Try to get details of the repairs, and be skeptical if the dealer says they were cosmetic bumper cover refinishing and no bodywork. Get it in writing so you can get a refund if the dealer misrepresented the car. The dealer probably has at least a $5,000 profit in his asking price, and time is money. So he may go for a quick flip to make $1,000.
Good luck!
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That’s a good dealer. I have done a LOT of business with them. My sales rep is Abner. Great guy, real car enthusiast and been there forever.
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By following the transactions it looks like Anaheim Land Rover took the vehicle in (@21,021 miles), then serviced it up a bit, couldn't sell it and moved it in Auction 3 months later. This is pretty obvious since the odometer only changed by 5 miles! Clearly they didn't even get many test drives of the vehicle with that little miles in 3 months.
Regardless, I know some people on here get froggy about a car being auctioned but this is just silliness, it is a long established way for dealers to move inventory between each other and not an indication of a lemon car.
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I agree about the auction not being a big deal and I was more referring to in this particular sale cycle that this dealer took it in on trade and this dealer is going To try and sell it. The historical stuff is there for sure, but still seems very solid with a very solid history. Will see what they say!
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Since the last one fell through, here are someIsome others that have caught my eye .I have been reaching out to the owners. Only one response so far, but open to discussion.
Silver car xk
1 accident in 2013, no airbags, font left needed some repair
Dash is good, rear window has failed
but, it really does look like a simple fix following in others footsteps. battery last year..
The good: price, dash,other leather condition, seemingly garage stored
the worries, rear window ( but I already budgeted a top replace for the other one, so this is fine) low maint records, will do a Carfax and see if I can get anything from there and the color combination is a bit sub optimal silver is the 3rd color on my list
here is the e- mail I got back from the owner
"Thanks for your interest in my Jag. In regards to the window, yes the seal around the rear window has come unglued from the cloth top. In the several years we’ve owned this car, we’ve only put about 7000 miles on it. It’s not an everyday driver for us. I don’t have service records for it, especially from before my ownership. I have had several oil change/services in the years I’ve owned it, replaced the wheel bearings; both at Surf City Tire and Auto. I replaced the battery myself near the beginning of the year or late last fall. The dashboard is not bubbling up.
It’s a great, fun car. My father in law is a Jaguar guy and owned an exotic car shop several decades ago. I always wanted one and bought this when I had an older truck that I needed to get a few more years out of, the Jag helped me extend it’s life by having something else to drive occasionally. The truck finally died, had to buy a new truck; and honestly don’t drive the Jag much at all because I usually need to have my truck with my for my businesses every day.
In doing some more research since posting the car, I’ve realized the price may be slightly high in consideration of possibly needing a new top and I could be flexible on it. Let me know if you’re interested. In just the last day I’ve had numerous inquiries.
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Silver car xk
1 accident in 2013, no airbags, font left needed some repair
Dash is good, rear window has failed
but, it really does look like a simple fix following in others footsteps. battery last year..
The good: price, dash,other leather condition, seemingly garage stored
the worries, rear window ( but I already budgeted a top replace for the other one, so this is fine) low maint records, will do a Carfax and see if I can get anything from there and the color combination is a bit sub optimal silver is the 3rd color on my list
here is the e- mail I got back from the owner
"Thanks for your interest in my Jag. In regards to the window, yes the seal around the rear window has come unglued from the cloth top. In the several years we’ve owned this car, we’ve only put about 7000 miles on it. It’s not an everyday driver for us. I don’t have service records for it, especially from before my ownership. I have had several oil change/services in the years I’ve owned it, replaced the wheel bearings; both at Surf City Tire and Auto. I replaced the battery myself near the beginning of the year or late last fall. The dashboard is not bubbling up.
It’s a great, fun car. My father in law is a Jaguar guy and owned an exotic car shop several decades ago. I always wanted one and bought this when I had an older truck that I needed to get a few more years out of, the Jag helped me extend it’s life by having something else to drive occasionally. The truck finally died, had to buy a new truck; and honestly don’t drive the Jag much at all because I usually need to have my truck with my for my businesses every day.
In doing some more research since posting the car, I’ve realized the price may be slightly high in consideration of possibly needing a new top and I could be flexible on it. Let me know if you’re interested. In just the last day I’ve had numerous inquiries.
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Sent you a PM. Thanks for the tip!
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I guess it depends on your budget, how picky you are, how long you intend to keep it and what you are prepared to have to come out of pocket for in the near future.
I think the car is over priced based on my experience. It has an accident history, even if it is minor, it DOES have cosmetic issues with both leather door cards de-laminating and big scuffs on the rear quarter panel leather covers. The rear window repair can be costly, again depending on how picky you are. The car is 10 years old and at the point mileage wise where it is going to need some major service, spark plugs, likely water pump, inevitable leaking plastic coolant pipes, etc.
I did a quick nationwide search and there are 2011 supercharged R versions with less than half the mileage for just a few thousand more. Lower mileage likely means less out of pocket for maintenance and parts replacements so in the end it could be a wash for a better lower mileage example.
Just my 2 cents...
EDIT: Also looks like driver's outer seat bolster has heavy wear and the front passenger seat back leather above the seat vent appears to have been pulled out. There are also some telltale ripples on the suede pillar covers and left sunvisor indicating the material has failed. The front left wheel well liner is also torn and damaged and I find it curious there no pictures of the engine bay.
I think the car is over priced based on my experience. It has an accident history, even if it is minor, it DOES have cosmetic issues with both leather door cards de-laminating and big scuffs on the rear quarter panel leather covers. The rear window repair can be costly, again depending on how picky you are. The car is 10 years old and at the point mileage wise where it is going to need some major service, spark plugs, likely water pump, inevitable leaking plastic coolant pipes, etc.
I did a quick nationwide search and there are 2011 supercharged R versions with less than half the mileage for just a few thousand more. Lower mileage likely means less out of pocket for maintenance and parts replacements so in the end it could be a wash for a better lower mileage example.
Just my 2 cents...
EDIT: Also looks like driver's outer seat bolster has heavy wear and the front passenger seat back leather above the seat vent appears to have been pulled out. There are also some telltale ripples on the suede pillar covers and left sunvisor indicating the material has failed. The front left wheel well liner is also torn and damaged and I find it curious there no pictures of the engine bay.
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The 2010s had the new exterior and the 5 litre engine as well as the upgraded transmission. The seat control panel is also the new style. Also, it looks like it has the black pack. I don't know if that was changed on the 10s or not. Overall it looks pretty good. I would get the service records if I could. Having owned both a 2008 and 2012 XK, if it were me, I think I would take a real close look at the 2010 XKR presuming it could be within your budget and the mechanicals check out.
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So here is the Information from the Dealership about the Black 2012 XK
Price: $24,879
Dealer Fees: $799
Tax Title Etc
Maintenance Issues:
Replacing 1 tire: There was a chip in the sidewall, the tires only have about 10K Miles on them. Still seems odd to only replace 1
Some general Maintenance is being done, Oil Change and Airfilter, not much else to do at this point (New water pump only 15Kmiles), Full recent service record
There does seems to be some de-lamination on the door panels according to the sales guy he will get pictures tomorrow
Might be the start of some De-lamination on the dashboard by the center instrument 'hump' again, pictures tomorrow morning
Main Questions left outstanding (An answer in the morning is promised)
What types of tires are on the car
Can you get a full service record by reaching out to the other Jaguar Dealerships (They might have an easier time than me)
What is the condition of the rear window/has it been replaced/is it starting to fall out
Does it have adaptive cruise control
Does it have upgraded sound
Pictures will be sent in the morning
The silver car guy is taking pictures when the rain stops in the near future (it is a rather wet day in NC is seems) So I might have 2 cars to compare and discuss
Price: $24,879
Dealer Fees: $799
Tax Title Etc
Maintenance Issues:
Replacing 1 tire: There was a chip in the sidewall, the tires only have about 10K Miles on them. Still seems odd to only replace 1
Some general Maintenance is being done, Oil Change and Airfilter, not much else to do at this point (New water pump only 15Kmiles), Full recent service record
There does seems to be some de-lamination on the door panels according to the sales guy he will get pictures tomorrow
Might be the start of some De-lamination on the dashboard by the center instrument 'hump' again, pictures tomorrow morning
Main Questions left outstanding (An answer in the morning is promised)
What types of tires are on the car
Can you get a full service record by reaching out to the other Jaguar Dealerships (They might have an easier time than me)
What is the condition of the rear window/has it been replaced/is it starting to fall out
Does it have adaptive cruise control
Does it have upgraded sound
Pictures will be sent in the morning
The silver car guy is taking pictures when the rain stops in the near future (it is a rather wet day in NC is seems) So I might have 2 cars to compare and discuss
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"Dealer Fees". Just another name for "Give me more money". The only 'fees' a dealer should have are for the paperwork filing for title and licensing. Should be no more than $75 total. Since evidently "Tax Title Etc" is ALSO listed, there ARE no more fees than "Give me more money". Seriously. All other dealer costs would be in the Price of the Vehicle.
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"Dealer Fees". Just another name for "Give me more money". The only 'fees' a dealer should have are for the paperwork filing for title and licensing. Should be no more than $75 total. Since evidently "Tax Title Etc" is ALSO listed, there ARE no more fees than "Give me more money". Seriously. All other dealer costs would be in the Price of the Vehicle.
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"Dealer Fees". Just another name for "Give me more money". The only 'fees' a dealer should have are for the paperwork filing for title and licensing. Should be no more than $75 total. Since evidently "Tax Title Etc" is ALSO listed, there ARE no more fees than "Give me more money". Seriously. All other dealer costs would be in the Price of the Vehicle.