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Old May 18, 2020 | 06:49 AM
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Since the last one fell through, here are someIsome others that have caught my eye .I have been reaching out to the owners. Only one response so far, but open to discussion.

Silver car xk

1 accident in 2013, no airbags, font left needed some repair
Dash is good, rear window has failed
​ but, it really does look like a simple fix following in others footsteps. battery last year..
The good: price, dash,other leather condition, seemingly garage stored
the worries, rear window ( but I already budgeted a top replace for the other one, so this is fine) low maint records, will do a Carfax and see if I can get anything from there and the color combination is a bit sub optimal silver is the 3rd color on my list

here is the e- mail I got back from the owner

"Thanks for your interest in my Jag. In regards to the window, yes the seal around the rear window has come unglued from the cloth top. In the several years we’ve owned this car, we’ve only put about 7000 miles on it. It’s not an everyday driver for us. I don’t have service records for it, especially from before my ownership. I have had several oil change/services in the years I’ve owned it, replaced the wheel bearings; both at Surf City Tire and Auto. I replaced the battery myself near the beginning of the year or late last fall. The dashboard is not bubbling up.



It’s a great, fun car. My father in law is a Jaguar guy and owned an exotic car shop several decades ago. I always wanted one and bought this when I had an older truck that I needed to get a few more years out of, the Jag helped me extend it’s life by having something else to drive occasionally. The truck finally died, had to buy a new truck; and honestly don’t drive the Jag much at all because I usually need to have my truck with my for my businesses every day.



In doing some more research since posting the car, I’ve realized the price may be slightly high in consideration of possibly needing a new top and I could be flexible on it. Let me know if you’re interested. In just the last day I’ve had numerous inquiries.
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One question I'd pose to the seller is what is going on with the steering wheel....it appears to be heavily scratched up. Though, that may be reflections and sunlight fooling my eye.
Other issues could be if he has been doing his own old changes, what type oil and at what mileage? The 5.0l engines are very particular to proper oils. You can read about those issues in many forum threads on the topic.
Lastly, guaranteed it will require a new top so you'll need to consider that into negotiating the price, should you choose this one.
You might ask him to post more pix to you like some of the engine bay.
I'm sure others will have some input too.
 
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Old May 18, 2020 | 07:25 AM
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One question I'd pose to the seller is what is going on with the steering wheel....it appears to be heavily scratched up. Though, that may be reflections and sunlight fooling my eye.
Other issues could be if he has been doing his own old changes, what type oil and at what mileage? The 5.0l engines are very particular to proper oils. You can read about those issues in many forum threads on the topic.
Lastly, guaranteed it will require a new top so you'll need to consider that into negotiating the price, should you choose this one.
You might ask him to post more pix to you like some of the engine bay.
I'm sure others will have some input too.
You don't think the top could be repaired following the process outlined here? Or is there something else you are seeing as well?

I will double check the oil changes, seems he had them done at a local shop, would want to call them as well.

As for the steering wheel, I will ask, I didn't notice it in the pics, but I am a bit color blind which manifests itself in weird ways sometimes. What picture # do you see it in?

Thanks for the quick review!
 
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Old May 18, 2020 | 08:00 AM
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There are some threads on the rear window repairs that you might look into. It can be done and many have had success with it but I'd use it as a bargaining chip at the least.
Photo #10. It appears there are scratches on the top of the steering wheel. Though again, it could be an optical allusion.
I change my oil regularly at 4K miles. It is pretty easy to DIY oil changes on the 5.0L since it uses a vacuum extractor to remove the oil rather than pulling a plug in the pan. I also use an engine oil flush like 'lubegard' every other change to help remove sludge.
FYI, if you choose that car, don't be alarmed at the 'sewing machine' sound the engine makes as it is a normal effect of it's DI.
 
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Old May 18, 2020 | 08:04 AM
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I forgot this point. If you hear a clattering sound at start up you might wish to walk away from it. Again there are forum threads that discuss in detail that that sound is a failure of the cam chain tensioners which can equate to big $$ to repair.
 
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Old May 18, 2020 | 08:06 AM
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14K and see what he says?
 
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Old May 18, 2020 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by pwpacp
One question I'd pose to the seller is what is going on with the steering wheel....it appears to be heavily scratched up. Though, that may be reflections and sunlight fooling my eye.......................
That wheel looks a bit like my old XK8 wheel because it was in the sun too much. It had a dash cover when I bought it, but nobody had covered the steering wheel.
 
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Old May 18, 2020 | 12:50 PM
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I spoke with the shop that worked on the car over the past few years. Washer fluid pump replaced, sway bars, brakes, Wheel Hub Bearings, 3 oil changes in 3 years (5-20 Mobil 1 synthetic) nothing major or left to sit. They say they inspect the car pretty thoroughly and have noticed nothing that needs to be done. They knew the guy by name when I called and he apparently has maintains other vehicles there. He apparently doesn't let maintenance slip according to them. They have not repaired the water pump, and when I galled the jaguar dealership where it was serviced a few years ago was told "Service records are state secrets and I can't discuss any of them with you"

I do see the discoloration you mention on the steering wheel now that I am looking at it, if I chat with him today, we will see where it goes from there!
 
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Old May 18, 2020 | 01:54 PM
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So, I guess I can be flexible.. this is a very very nice 2008. As much as I would prefer the 2010+ MY, this is a really nice R....
2008 Black XKR
 
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Old May 18, 2020 | 01:58 PM
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So the shop that services the car doesn't see any issue with the rear window (nothing needs to be done)? Also, looks like the passenger door leather is beginning to delaminate from the door card. I'd ask about it.

I personally avoid anyone who says a car is in excellent condition when the top clearly is not. I'd want to see better pics of the dash leather.

Also, the dealership can easily de-identify the previous owner with a fricken sharpie and send you the records. This isn't HIPAA for crying out loud.

Last, before you invest any more money, have him take it to his shop, pu it on a lift and get some pics of the underbelly, Have him remove the under scuttle and get close up of the WP and transmission.

Take what I say with a grain of salt. It's what I would do if it were my money.

 
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Old May 18, 2020 | 02:09 PM
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So the shop that services the car doesn't see any issue with the rear window (nothing needs to be done)? Also, looks like the passenger door leather is beginning to delaminate from the door card. I'd ask about it.

I personally avoid anyone who says a car is in excellent condition when the top clearly is not. I'd want to see better pics of the dash leather.

Also, the dealership can easily de-identify the previous owner with a fricken sharpie and send you the records. This isn't HIPAA for crying out loud.

Last, before you invest any more money, have him take it to his shop, pu it on a lift and get some pics of the underbelly, Have him remove the under scuttle and get close up of the WP and transmission.

Take what I say with a grain of salt. It's what I would do if it were my money.
To be fair, I did mention to them that I was aware of the window coming out because...well, I am aware of the window coming out. So our conversation focused on things other than that. and I have no idea if the window fell out since they last saw him anyway. I asked them about the mechanical aspect last time they saw the car (April of last year).

More pics will be needed no doubt, and I haven't heard back from him since our original email exchange, I am hopeful he calls me this afternoon. Passenger side door and steering wheel will be discussed, I will hopefully get more dash pics as well. Under belly pics I will ask about and go from there!

As for dealers, I don't understand why they are this obstinate about this ****. I agree, it isn't HIPAA and honestly, this make me like dealers even less, they just seem to be on a power trip about it
 

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Old May 18, 2020 | 02:17 PM
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One car I bought, I got that line once from a dealer and I think to be fair, there are States that are passing these privacy rules for the sake of saving any past owners from being harassed by the next owner, but again, nothing a sharpie can't fix. I pissed and moaned up the ladder until they were sick of me. I had an email with full records a few hours later and funny enough, they didn't block out the previous owner anyway.

You have limited budget Marc so it's worth chasing, at least to the service manager.
 
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Old May 18, 2020 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Sean W
One car I bought, I got that line once from a dealer and I think to be fair, there are States that are passing these privacy rules for the sake of saving any past owners from being harassed by the next owner, but again, nothing a sharpie can't fix. I pissed and moaned up the ladder until they were sick of me. I had an email with full records a few hours later and funny enough, they didn't block out the previous owner anyway.

You have limited budget Marc so it's worth chasing, at least to the service manager.
I might call back and just say I am the current owner. They said if I was the current owner they would tell me more. That might be the winning strategy all in all
 
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Old May 18, 2020 | 04:55 PM
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The front brake rotor in picture 3 - it's hard to tell if it's grooved or is just a weird reflection....
 
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Old May 18, 2020 | 06:11 PM
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Maybe that disk got rusty since North Carolina, and was driven a short distance and scraped off some rust? It isn't pretty, that's for sure.
 
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Old May 18, 2020 | 07:54 PM
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It looks like surface rust to me, Scott (owner) mentioned that he has only driven it from the shop back to his house since the window fell in (just a couple milea

Either way, I have asked him for a more detailed picture and to feel it to see is grooved, will see what he says.

I will say this, it is nice dealing with an owner, he seems concerned with the car. It is a major difference
 
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Old May 18, 2020 | 10:42 PM
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I guess it depends on your budget, how picky you are, how long you intend to keep it and what you are prepared to have to come out of pocket for in the near future.

I think the car is over priced based on my experience. It has an accident history, even if it is minor, it DOES have cosmetic issues with both leather door cards de-laminating and big scuffs on the rear quarter panel leather covers. The rear window repair can be costly, again depending on how picky you are. The car is 10 years old and at the point mileage wise where it is going to need some major service, spark plugs, likely water pump, inevitable leaking plastic coolant pipes, etc.

I did a quick nationwide search and there are 2011 supercharged R versions with less than half the mileage for just a few thousand more. Lower mileage likely means less out of pocket for maintenance and parts replacements so in the end it could be a wash for a better lower mileage example.

Just my 2 cents...

EDIT: Also looks like driver's outer seat bolster has heavy wear and the front passenger seat back leather above the seat vent appears to have been pulled out. There are also some telltale ripples on the suede pillar covers and left sunvisor indicating the material has failed. The front left wheel well liner is also torn and damaged and I find it curious there no pictures of the engine bay.
 

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Old May 18, 2020 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by jahummer
I guess it depends on your budget, how picky you are, how long you intend to keep it and what you are prepared to have to come out of pocket for in the near future.

I think the car is over priced based on my experience. It has an accident history, even if it is minor, it DOES have cosmetic issues with both leather door cards de-laminating and big scuffs on the rear quarter panel covers. The rear window repair can be costly, again depending on how picky you are. The car is 10 years old and at the point mileage wise where it is going to need some major service, spark plugs, likely water pump, inevitable leaking plastic coolant pipes, etc.

I did a quick nationwide search and there are 2011 supercharged R versions with less than half the mileage for just a few thousand more. Lower mileage likely means less out of pocket for maintenance and parts replacements so in the end it could be a wash for a better lower mileage example.

Just my 2 cents...
yes, I have seen lots of those as well, but given the last thread, they are all being sold by dreaded dealers.... and it is better to try and buy from a private seller, from the feedback I have gotten. It is all a bit of a minefield it seems. And, r badging aside, a large number of those have some different issues I have noticed as well at the higher price point.

As it is, it is absolutely overpriced. At 15-6, it probably isn't that overpriced and becomes something fun to have and own. Will have to see.

The goal would be to own and keep it for a while. I would like to do my own maintenance on it (would probably have the water pump replaced down there before picking it up. The goal is a daily driver for the summer months, and I have experience with high mileage cars as I own 2 and have owned others in the past.

Is there the car or two that caught your eye as being a particularly good example in your search? There is nothing wrong with taking a closer look at a more of them!
 
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Old May 18, 2020 | 11:07 PM
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I think Moses' suggestion of $14K is more in line. These forums will provide you with immense help in getting an idea of what to expect with a higher mileage Jag. If you are ok with the cosmetics and mechanical repairs/maintenance then it could be a good candidate for you. There are not many of these cars out there so it could take time to find the "right" one. A couple of years ago I had considered buying a "cheaper" used XK vert just for fun with similar mileage and became frustrated really quickly after going in person to see them and finding they looked like they had been beat to death. I still think it is better to spend a couple thousand dollars more now for a lower mileage, cleaner example than buy a cheaper one that is going to end up needing several thousand dollars in repairs.
 
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Old May 18, 2020 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jahummer
I think Moses' suggestion of $14K is more in line. These forums will provide you with immense help in getting an idea of what to expect with a higher mileage Jag. If you are ok with the cosmetics and mechanical repairs/maintenance then it could be a good candidate for you. There are not many of these cars out there so it could take time to find the "right" one. A couple of years ago I had considered buying a "cheaper" used XK vert just for fun with similar mileage and became frustrated really quickly after going in person to see them and finding they looked like they had been beat to death. I still think it is better to spend a couple thousand dollars more now for a lower mileage, cleaner example than buy a cheaper one that is going to end up needing several thousand dollars in repairs.
That is fair. Depending what comes back, the worst that will happen is I throw a number at him and he laughs and hangs up!

That being said, if you have seen something that is of I terest, I would love to see it
 
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