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Old Sep 1, 2020 | 09:43 PM
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Default Supercharger Actuator by-pass, Vacuum Type, bracket

Can someone post a picture of their supercharger by pass, vacuum type--engine top picture with cover removed. From closely inspecting my car after having the torsion isolator replaced the bracket at the end of the actuator by-pass appears to be bent. I'm curious if this is the way it should be or should it be straight, picture below. I also have a picture of the supercharger with it off the car in the shop and it appears to be straight. Can someone please take a picture of their engine top and post it for me from the right side similar to first picture posted. Thanks.



 

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Old Sep 1, 2020 | 10:16 PM
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The "L" shaped rod coming out of the vacuum actuator has two raised dimples. The arm on the bypass valve is supposed to sit between them and is straight. I can't tell from the pictures if this is your issue but if it is, it causes the actuator arm to come out at an angle. Easy fix - just unbolt the actuator and wiggle it about until the arm sits between the two dimples. Of course you'd think paying close to $200 an hour for labor would prevent such issues occurring in the first place!
 
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Old Sep 1, 2020 | 11:37 PM
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The "L" shaped rod coming out of the vacuum actuator has two raised dimples. The arm on the bypass valve is supposed to sit between them and is straight. I can't tell from the pictures if this is your issue but if it is, it causes the actuator arm to come out at an angle. Easy fix - just unbolt the actuator and wiggle it about until the arm sits between the two dimples. Of course you'd think paying close to $200 an hour for labor would prevent such issues occurring in the first place!
Thanks TXFireblade. The circled black bracket appears bent and not straight. Yes, at 154/hour one would think he/she would get quality work. Do you have a picture. I will go back armed with the picture demanding it be fixed. I'm concerned about why the bracket is bent. It would take a lot of force to bend the bracket to the shape it is in.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2020 | 10:10 AM
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As requested. I took a closer look at your pictures and i see what you mean. Bunch of cowboys!

In this image the actuator is in it's relaxed or resting position.


In this image the actuator is in the retracted position.



If the actuator arm is bent, you'll need a complete new supercharger as the bypass valve doesn't appear to be available as a spare.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2020 | 10:47 AM
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Please name the shop concerned.

4 miles from me is an Indy that races XKR's, their servicing is updated on the main dealer database and they charge me £65ph labour which is 84 USD or €73 euro.

Here's their quote for fitting a new nose to my SC to prove that
 
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Old Sep 2, 2020 | 01:19 PM
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I would try straightening it out before considering a new SC, or complain to the guys who did it if you're sure it was them.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2020 | 06:33 PM
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This really pisses me off. I wanted to check to assure it is suppose to be straight, as evident in the first picture of the supercharger removed and confirmed here. I expected them to provide much better service and to be honest with me. I will have a good conversation with them tomorrow to see what happened, why they never told me, and what they are going to do about it. For them to bend the small bracket that much they must have put alot of force on it.
 

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Old Sep 2, 2020 | 06:43 PM
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"As it arrived" will no doubt be their explanation.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2020 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Cee Jay
"As it arrived" will no doubt be their explanation.
No, no, no. They can't say that. The picture of the supercharger on the bench is my supercharger they removed from my car showing a straight bracket! My service Rep took me out to see my car in the shop and I took a few pictures. It obviously was done in the shop.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2020 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by TXFireblade
As requested. I took a closer look at your pictures and i see what you mean. Bunch of cowboys!

In this image the actuator is in it's relaxed or resting position.


In this image the actuator is in the retracted position.



If the actuator arm is bent, you'll need a complete new supercharger as the bypass valve doesn't appear to be available as a spare.
How did you get it to retract so you could take the picture--it is vacuum operated?
 
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Old Sep 2, 2020 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DGL
How did you get it to retract so you could take the picture--it is vacuum operated?
See the tip of his screwdriver pushing it in?
 
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Old Sep 2, 2020 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by kj07xk
See the tip of his screwdriver pushing it in?
And the winner is.......

You can also use a hand vacuum pump if you have one lying around .
 
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Old Sep 3, 2020 | 05:15 AM
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The technician first installed the new manufacturer torsion isolator when he was suppose to install the solid isolator supplied. The picture of the supercharger removed from the car on the shop bench is with the manufacturer's

new torsion isolotor installed (installed with factory gasket). As evident in this picture the technician installed the solid isolator using a red sealant and not an OEM gasket supplied with the kit which he used at first to install the incorrect isolator. When he installed the solid isolator he did the damage.
 

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Old Sep 3, 2020 | 07:48 AM
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Had a meeting first this in the morning with the service manager. They will replace the snout or supercharger to correct the damage. I requested a different technician do the work and thanked him for taking care of the problem. I was very upset this happened after spending $1,400 in preventative maintenance replacing coolant hoses.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2020 | 08:07 AM
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This is exactly why I use the dealer.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2020 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by DGL
Had a meeting first this in the morning with the service manager. They will replace the snout or supercharger to correct the damage. I requested a different technician do the work and thanked him for taking care of the problem. I was very upset this happened after spending $1,400 in preventative maintenance replacing coolant hoses.
I suggest you ask to see the original parts after they have completed the work, otherwise you won’t know if they simply replaced the gasket and flattened that linkage piece.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2020 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Mufc
This is exactly why I use the dealer.
I've never had a dealer do a competent job, they always mess everything up, and treat ME like an incompetent boob although I explain everything better than they can, they just don't listen.

I stopped using dealers and went to the best indie I can find and have never had a problem after that.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2020 | 11:00 AM
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Yeah i guess it's hit or miss with dealers and independents. But then again i've botched plenty of repair jobs myself, and under no duress or time constraint - so i feel for them.

Still trying to figure out what they were doing to bend that bracket like that?? Trying to take it completely off? Disconnecting the actuator link? Thats a solid bend on a solid metal part.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2020 | 11:03 AM
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This potential issue is covered in the manual:


The whole system dealers use to charge customers and pay technicians is a disaster waiting to happen, especially for the customer. Techs get paid the allotted hours for the job regardless of how long it takes so if they do a 5 hour job in 4 hours then they still get paid for 5 hours work. Financially incentivizing people to work quickly, especially on complex tasks, never results in a quality product.

 
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Old Sep 3, 2020 | 01:38 PM
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Ahh great find.
 
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