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I'm totally with you... First person that has staled sense on this thread...
I've driven all types of the F and one or two X150. Different animals - apples and oranges. X150 for easy drives - F for serious enthusiastic drivers...
My 2008 XKR Portfolio convertible is a perfect companion to my Corvette powered 1973 XKE 2+2. It is a limited edition trim line and now has 48K miles. The closest dealership is 250 miles and I have been there once in the last three years and then it was to sort out the electronics. The engine seems bulletproof and the car has (across its lifetime) never slept outside. I really like the look of the car and will wait for a spaceship until I can have a real spaceship. My petty complaint is that I had to replace the console satin oak veneer with a new piece. Of course it is not an exact match and lacks the patina of the rest of the trim. Poor boy.
Two beautiful rides, but from different eras. BTW, the rims on your silver '02 XKR may be some of the sharpest looking rims I've seen on our vehicles. I'm sitting here sipping coffee and breaking a Commandment (coveting). Well done.
Two beautiful rides, but from different eras. BTW, the rims on your silver '02 XKR may be some of the sharpest looking rims I've seen on our vehicles. I'm sitting here sipping coffee and breaking a Commandment (coveting). Well done.
I appreciate it, the one thing I can say though is that I miss a little bit more legroom and the wood steering wheel. Lol. The XK from any generation seems rare to see
Nope, I can fit two pieces of hold and hand luggage in my XK for jetting off to sunnier climes with a significant other and arriving at the airport in style.
Could I do that in an F-type?
Heck yeah.... if your luggage is made by Hefty :-)
Don't get me wrong, I love my 2007 XK. I love the styling, the exhaust notes, the trunk, and even the back seats. Unfortunately, I do get tired of the brittle plastics, the rattles, the faded and tired navigation screens and all the other small things that make the car feel a little old and tired. Even my 2012 XF feels so much tighter, quieter, with materials that feel like a higher quality.
Has anyone thought about moving up to an F-Type? The 2014 examples could be had for around $30k.
This is a serious question and your opinions are welcome.
Thanks,
Ken
I traded my 2010 XK for a 2016 F-Type in January of this year. I did so to get the features of the Vision Pack (Rearview camera, blind spot, etc.). Although the F-Type is more fun to drive, I feel that the XK is a better car. Time will tell if the F-Type stays in the fleet.
I have a '97 XK8 Conv and a '59 Alfa Giulietta Conv. My first car was a '49 MG-TC and I've owned many foreign and domestic cars over the years. I raced SCCA HP/FP for 40-45 years, 1 natl championship.
That said, why all the BS about sports car vs GT car and how do you define it? I've heard this for many decades, usually to justify someone's choices and their picture of themselves. Am I closer to being a racer if I have a F type vs an XK8? Personally I like cars that have smooth lines vs today's many edges/folds, so the XK8 is my Jag choice. I get only ~20k miles from my $1k tyres - mostly exit/entrance ramps these days, so does driving it like this make it a sports car vs your definition of GT car which to me would be a luxury car like the f-type. The early '60s Ferreri SWB and GTO were called GT cars, and Abraham Lincoln was a Rep. Definitions change over time. I think the definition is in the eyes of the beholder and how that definition fits their image of themselves and their politics.
I'd suggest that the original definition was closer to - can it be raced pretty much as it came. I ran my TC in hill climbs and gymkhanas though other in that day ran some in SCCA. That raced-as-it-came definition fits pretty much everything foreign until the mid-70s. Some said they were sports cars if you get wet with the top up. Then it changed to can it be raced pretty much as it came (my first Natl HP Sprite couldn't even have a sway bar fitted). Then it changed to can it be raced with only a few tens of thousands of dollars inserted, then changed to does anyone like Tullius race one at hundreds of thousands inserted like his factory Jag. Now you can get a Porshe GT that can be raced as it comes, do you call that a sports car? Gt means something closer the early 60s these days
I'd suggest a better definition might be achieved with the words sporty car.
To me, I wonder about people who have sporty convertibles that they drive top down and windows up - hair getting messed up?
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[QUOTE=khsjsilver;2292260]Don't get me wrong, I love my 2007 XK. I love the styling, the exhaust notes, the trunk, and even the back seats. Unfortunately, I do get tired of the brittle plastics, the rattles, the faded and tired navigation screens and all the other small things that make the car feel a little old and tired. Even my 2012 XF feels so much tighter, quieter, with materials that feel like a higher quality.
Has anyone thought about moving up to an F-Type? The 2014 examples could be had for around $30k.
This is a serious question and your opinions are welcome.
Thanks,
Ken[/QUOTE
I fell in love with Lydia ( 2000 xkr conv anthracite with bone interior) the day I saw her. Still in love with her
Nuff said
It's mostly piddly stuff, but I'm fairly certain I have a mild for of OCD so it's impossible for me not to "sweat the small stuff".
Unless you are like the character from the TV show "Monk", you are not OCD. That is just what halfassed slackers call people, in an attempt to justify their own halfassedness.
I did own two generations of XKs and an XKR. Interestingly I chose to buy the XKR just after the new F-type came to my local dealer. I test drove both the V6 and the V8 versions and was not impressed enough to buy the F-type and rather went with a used XKR. Since, I sold the XKR. It was getting to be old for me, despite being ultra low mileage and still beautiful. I wanted something more up to date, have amenities that were available on low to mid priced cars.
Purchased two new Jaguars. The 2012 XJL and also a 2012 XF. Nice cars, particularly the XJL Portfolio. But, it drove me up the wall with its horrible ride quality, having an unfix-able minor tremor in its ride. Still, both models were years behind other, lesser brands/models when it came to the interior.
Now, I do have the F-type R, a 2017 model. Still behind the rest of the industry when it comes to interior amenities but, looks great, drives great and sound great. I much rather drive it than the larger, more GT-like XKR. Despite its heavy weight, the F-type feels much more like a sports car for the twisties than the XKR did.
I'd even trade it for a Trabant providing it works! My xk8 is currently in bits, defying all attempts to get the fuel pump to run. Even fitted a new one, hence car in bits with rear suspension off to access fuel lines. Grrrr
So, a couple years ago my wife was ready for a convertible. I thought she'd go for a Miata, because while I'm a car nut, she was always just a... "whatever works" and Mazda's current crop of cars are some of the best that they'd ever made, IMO. I offered her my XKR so *I* could go get a new one, but she thinks the XKR is too big and too unruly - she calls it a hooligan mobile (she's not wrong - grin). So off we go to test drive. Miata, F-Type, BMW 2 and 3 series, MB SL/SLK, and... Porsche. The F-type was definitely more of a sports car than my XKR, but it was still too 'brash' for her. She gets in a 718 Boxster S and she's sold. So, we end up with a shiny silver 718 S parked next to the XKR. The 718 is smooth, competent and stupidly quick - esp for a turbo 2.5L 4. It's an amazing sports car and trounces the Jag if you're doing canyon carving. But the XKR is still my first choice for driving. That may change a bit here later this year though. We were waiting for a custom paint slot so we could get a green 718 (the silver car was a placeholder 'deal' from the dealership while we were in line), and Porsche released the GTS4/GT4 in a new Python Green that she just loves. The bonus for this wait is that we're going to get a 400hp 4L flat 6 in lieu of the 4... so I may actually try to steal her car from her more frequently. But I honestly don't expect it to be comfy like the Jag is. I can drive for hours and be ok there, where I need a break every couple of hours from the 718.
Don't get me wrong, I love my 2007 XK. I love the styling, the exhaust notes, the trunk, and even the back seats. Unfortunately, I do get tired of the brittle plastics, the rattles, the faded and tired navigation screens and all the other small things that make the car feel a little old and tired. Even my 2012 XF feels so much tighter, quieter, with materials that feel like a higher quality.
Has anyone thought about moving up to an F-Type? The 2014 examples could be had for around $30k.
This is a serious question and your opinions are welcome.
Thanks,
Ken
Personally, I would never do it. I bought my 2007 XK Convertible in 2009 when it only had 10,000 miles. Today (11 years later) it has 91,000 miles. It has been an absolutely fabulous car in every way. I am very surprised that you mentioned rattles and flimsy plastic...because my car seems rock solid and the all materials have held up very well. The F-Type is a beautiful car, but it is smaller and I like the XK proportions better. Also, with the top up, the F-Type does not have the sleek well-tailored look of the XK with its top up. The XK model introduced in 2007 will stand the test of time as one of the most beautiful grand tourers ever.
Bottom line literally, my big *** does not fit in an F type, rode in a co workers and he told me to stop trying and make the seat go back further. I'm 6'2" 250lbs and fit in my XKR just fine. Plus I was not a fan of the ride on the F Type, but I get it. its more of a Sports car not meant to be a Grand Tourer