It would not surprise me if down the road my Erhu ends up being worth my than my XK. There really is no way to convince anyone on either side of this debate of the validity of the other side; as it isn't up to us. It is up to where mobile money wants to go in the future.

The only thing that would make the XKR suddenly desireable, is regulation that constricts the design of new cars to the point people have to turn to used cars for ICE equipped performance. This would drive up everything.

The X150 sits in an awkward spot in that it is very electronic, yet the electronics of its competitors are much better. So it neither provides a top of the line feel of a mechanical car; nor can match or exceed the modern gizmo laden cars. It doesn't really matter to those of us that have purchased; yet from new car production #'s falling rapidly before production was cut entirely we can see that even mint and new money wasn't being directed at this car.

 

Just as much as XK is one. All of them are roadsters, most of them have enthusiast following. Yet I can pick nice example for $15K.

 

You are confusing a Ftype with an XKR

I have never** seen any 500hp car that had style and was reliable, not eventually become much sought after. Power itself is timeless.
Heck I sought this car out at $105k.
If I am the only person on earth to do so, I can really live with that.

** if you know one please point it out.

 

Tesla P100D, extremely striking car inside and out, great body, nice design details. A very well executed autombile, and when it comes to performance, there is *nothing* an XKR can do to beat it in a straight line.

Porsche 911 Turbo, I've seen examples in multiple 100K's of miles. Great looks, comfortable, and its still faster than the XKR.

Corvette Z06, XKR simply cannot compete in power, or handling. Both have decent looking exteriors; interior down to personal preference.

Despite not being a limited model, production of 5.0 XKR's was small; not a lot of buyers of them new. There also aren't a lot of buyers of them used.

There are much much faster cars to come, especially from the electric market. Imagine if Tesla made a 2+2 coupe?

I am unsure on reliability, but the Nissan GTR is another car that would skunk a 5.0 XKR.

Look at the values relative to MSRP of the above cars; the XKR loses that to.

I do not need validation that others want to buy/own my car. I'm ok with taking an unpopular option.

Ford GT, have those appreciated? Also in the 500HP range, great looks. I've seen some high mileage examples.

 

Perspective on the word fast in a fun and fast car with high appeal in looks.

No matter how much faster the XKR is than a base ford focus, there are many many cars that can wallop it.

 

Not even in a 320 mile long straight line?

 

What I did with my electric RC race car was swap out the battery packs.

The ability to swap it out quickly on full size can happen to.

The XKR can be left in the dust by the electric cars of the future.

 

.... and a future version of an XKR will do some butt-whuppin' on current Electrics. May be electric itself, I'm just speaking towards New Tech nearly always beats Old Tech.

 

We're comparing the X150 to the rest of market, so the X150 will remain roughly static. Perhaps an aftermarket transmission upgrade; but currently power outputs are transmission restricted, which leaves the ceiling for the X150 very close to stock. (For 5.0 XKR's).

 

0-60 times are numbers they post for kids who still think life is about flooring it at a red light and pissing off some punk next to you. In reality it will probably get you shot in most cities. Or your car keyed when they finally find your **** in a wholefoods parking lot.

Now, 50-70, what I call the authority band, the real world grown up situation when you want to merge with interstate traffic, or overtake someone driving 50 in a 70, there the XKR is top predator.

 

I believe battery powered cars will make rarer mechanical works of art like ours more desirable.

Just like digital watches actually boosted Swiss movement desirability.

 

P.S. If you were trying to evacuate Florida and you owned a Tesla- you were a fcked monkey.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/08/a...ible-cars.html

"The rest of the auction generated few other significant prices. Forty-seven percent of the 71 cars didn’t sell, compared with a failure rate of 24 percent from 86 lots at the equivalent RM Sotheby’s auction in London last year."

These are collector's quality cars.

"But growth in the classic car market has stalled, as it has in other luxury markets. Total sales at Sotheby’s in the first six months of 2017 were $2.8 billion, up slightly from the $2.7 billion achieved in the jittery first half of 2016, according to Lauren Gioia, who leads the company’s communications worldwide."

 

2018 Camry has 301 HP. Do you think it will ever be collectible?

 

What do you mean by "collectible"?

I bet there will be more 2018 Camry's on the road 30, 40, and 50 years from now than all the 2006 thru 2014 X150s on the road combined.

 

Clearly there are 2 Universes:
The cursed who lose money on cars their entire lives, and the blessed who win.

Its like a boat that sails east and a boat that sails west- yet its the same wind that propels them both.

 

They are quite attractive. Toyota nails the Camry styling with making it edgier each iteration. Too commonplace to make it collectible.

 

What about 2011 Mercury Grand Marquis? Only 248 ever sold. Would that ever be collectible?

What about Pontiac G8, only 23K sold from the entire run, and some trims produced 415hp out of 6.2-litter V8. Would that ever be collectible?

I don't think so on both. As in, some people might collect them, but the best examples will always sell for around 10K.

Speaking of Pontiac, what about Solstice? 65K produced in the entire run. Anemic LE5 2.4L I4 engine only made 173hp. Cheap plastic throughout. However, it is possible Solstice will become collectible in 20 years. I'd also guess in 2035 Solstice would sell for more than X150.

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Edited to add:

More relevantly, here is thread on XJ12 :

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...s-left-150917/

Add 15 years or so, and similar threads will be posted about newer Jaguars. I think E-type and XK-150 are about the only exceptions in the entire Jaguar family in eventually returning to inflation-adjusted sales price value.

 

1965-66 Ford Mustang? 1.3 million sold, still worth a good bit. MSRP was $2,500 and now they are anywhere from $6k for 'decent' up to $100k+.
Nobody ever knows, except Time.

 

Exactly. Stating with certanty XKR will become collectible is shortsighted. Sure, it may become collectible, but there is absolutely no certainty in that. Don't buy one counting on making money on it. Instead, buy it because you like the car and want to drive it.

Could you correctly pick next collectible car? Sure, it is possible. Could you create the next meme? Sure, it is possible. But the odds are stacked against you.