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When I had first starting reading as many threads as I could to learn while searching for my first x150…
The old debate was wet cell vs AGM mat (hush).
Seems that has been put to rest and AGM is fine, just have the Ctek that can do AGM, usually both.
This battery (linked above to Amazon) is Lithium Ion.
A whole different animal.
Has anyone successfully used a them for an extended period of time?
Do they require a new maintainer?
A very good post but any further tips to # 11 “battery simply slides out, new one slides in” for a convertible? My replacement battery weighs 21.2 kg or 46.64pounds
A very good post but any further tips to # 11 “battery simply slides out, new one slides in” for a convertible? My replacement battery weighs 21.2 kg or 46.64pounds
There are several good posts about that here, towards the end.
A short piece of 1/2" plywood between the battery location and the edge of the trunk made installing my new battery very easy, just pushed it along.
Lifting it into the trunk is the toughest part.
I think you're looking for trouble with a lithium battery, as your alternator and Battery Monitoring System Module weren't designed for lithium batteries.
I wouldn't be able to sleep knowing there's a lithium battery in my garage. Or do they have to be at 30,000 feet to spontaneously combust?
...your alternator and Battery Monitoring System Module weren't designed for lithium batteries...
I notice that in SDD’s List of Personalization Parameters for Modification there is a line item titled, “Battery type”. Modification choices for this line item include proposed values of Undefined, Battery type 01 through 14, and Error (see picture below). My as-built value is set to Undefined. Does anyone know what the numerals 01-14 define or if changing to one of the numeric choices might be for AGM, Flooded, Lithium, etc., at differing amp-hour ratings such that the alternator would be properly regulated? When changing the battery in our former BMW, I could select battery type and amp-hour rating using their ISTA software, so am thinking maybe this is where such adjustments are made with a Jaguar. Any ideas?
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I think you're looking for trouble with a lithium battery, as your alternator and Battery Monitoring System Module weren't designed for lithium batteries.
I wouldn't be able to sleep knowing there's a lithium battery in my garage. Or do they have to be at 30,000 feet to spontaneously combust?
Better safe than sorry.
@Stuart S Quite a few NSX owners made the jump to lithium ion batteries (Shorai) as the weight savings was meaningful (from over 40# to under 10#). The issue was keeping them working as they seemed to fail over and over again. It could have been that we were using the smallest battery, intended for ATV use. Or, it could have been something else. But I never heard of any fires and with the prices on those cars skyrocketing, I am guessing if there were any issues word would have spread quickly. Anecdotal, sure. But, there you have it.
I notice that in SDD’s List of Personalization Parameters for Modification there is a line item titled, “Battery type”. Modification choices for this line item include proposed values of Undefined, Battery type 01 through 14, and Error (see picture below). My as-built value is set to Undefined. Does anyone know what the numerals 01-14 define or if changing to one of the numeric choices might be for AGM, Flooded, Lithium, etc., at differing amp-hour ratings such that the alternator would be properly regulated? When changing the battery in our former BMW, I could select battery type and amp-hour rating using their ISTA software, so am thinking maybe this is where such adjustments are made with a Jaguar. Any ideas?
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@KurtC what happens to the HEX values, the Block and bytes if you select any of the other battery Types? What version of SDD are you running? Great question. I suspect it's merely a place holder for future cars.
The batteries are Lifepo4....they is safe.
They are not...Lithium Ion.
NOT LITHIUM ION.
wj
Yep, sez it right in the name Lifepo - LI - Lithium, FE - Iron, PO - phosphate . Read up on these a while ago. They're not plug and play with our cars or really any conventional cars with an alternator. You apparently need a DC-DC charger placed between the battery and alternator. Only read about this. I don't have any direct experience.
Yep, sez it right in the name Lifepo - LI - Lithium, FE - Iron, PO - phosphate . Read up on these a while ago. They're not plug and play with our cars or really any conventional cars with an alternator. You apparently need a DC-DC charger placed between the battery and alternator. Only read about this. I don't have any direct experience.
I believe the “transformer” is within the case of the battery.
I believe the “transformer” is within the case of the battery.
thx guy. I did a quick google search. This was the response. - “No, standard LiFePO4 batteries do not have a built-in DC-to-DC charger; this is a separate device that must be purchased and installed to charge them from a source like a vehicle's alternator. The DC-to-DC charger is crucial because it regulates the power from the alternator to prevent damage to both the battery and the alternator, ensuring a safe and efficient charging profile.”
My friends 545HP, E85, XE (which we got up to 169mph at the Texas Mile several years ago) has a LiFePo4. The only issue was that initially while being detailed the battery was 'killed'. It required a restore with a special charger. It is probably the way of the future. I'll stick with the old AGM and Older 2008 XK for a while!
wj
