Hello people, I have a 1997 xk8 that is doing my head in when I put it into park and take the key out of the ignition nine times out of ten a bleeping sound can be heard. I have noticed two things, first is when I put it into park there is a click from the gear leaver, when it does click there is no bleeping, other times when it does not click the bleeping starts, If I move the gear leaver when there is the bleeping it stops, if I dont here the click when putting it in park I put it back into drive and then into park I can here the click and there is no bleeping. Can any one advise me before I take it into a Jaguar dealer and have to pay £165.00 for an hours work.

 

Sounds like the switch that tells the TCM the lever is in N is getting bad, or somehow out of alignment. It is possible to remove the entire shift lever area. The trim is a bit tricky to remove but it has been documented. The switches a pretty basic range switches, and generally available for a DIY. Putting it back together requires some finesse for the proper alignment. I have not had to do this personally, but there are several posts with pictures on this forum. It seems like a job that rewards folks that are better prepared and know what to expect in advance.

Best of luck, keep us posted.

 

The bleeping usually signifies the car is in gear and the ignition is on. Its like a warning sound to tell you not to turn the ignition to start the car. So try really ensuring the car is out of gear on removing the key. The click will be the car coming out of gear.

 

It can also be a common problem. The gate in the ignition key receptacle is stuck. The car thinks the key is still inserted- its warning you.

This happened to me last week or I'd never have thought of it.

John

 

Thank you all for your advise, now I,ve some idea,s of what to do I can get it into my local garage, NOT Jaguar at the moment, and see if they can sort it,
Will let you know how it goes.
Thanks again.
Les.

 

Les,

Sounds like a failing microswitch in the J-Gate gearstick module. Lots of microswitches there and they're getting old now. DIY-able - Relatively easy to remove to check and Rev Sam has a YouTube video showing access (he's sam11874 on Youtube). I've rebuilt my J Gate module using parts from a scrap donor car and a new generic microswitch. See pic below on what to expect.

 

Hi Les,
Your in Malvern too? Have we met at all? JEC, XKEC etc?
FrankC

 

FrankC

Did you know, there's a Malvern, in Pennslyvania, USA, so I suppose we could ask Les if he has a RHD or LHD car.

BTW There's also a London city in Ohio, Manchester in New Hampshire, and a Cardiff in New York. Think the RHD/LHD is easier to differentiate.....

 

Yes your right. I think he is American. Will leave you to work out why I think that.

 

Hint to the contrary:

 

Well spotted. You mean he is an American living in the UK. I bet he's out there in the sunshine polishing his big ends then.

 

Easier way to tell is just look at his profile where GB is listed as his residence.

 

Hello again people, sorry for not replying sooner but had a bit of a family crisis at home so not been on the computer for a bit, any way will try to reply to all your posts,
Thanks Dave for the information and even better the picture of the micro switch, I will get one ordered this week and get it fitted,
Yes Frankc I am also in Malvern but have not been to any JEC/XKEC meetings as yet but who knows for the future.

 

Les9187,

There are lots of microswitches here. See post #6 in another recent thread (link below).
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...nation-192734/

Good luck and let us know how you get on. And details of the supplier and parts you find for the microswitches.

 

Hi Dave, thanks for that, looks like there,s at least 3 switches, will probably be a case of replace one at a time and until I get to the right one.
Les.

 

Hi Dave, I,ve been in touch with my local Jaguar parts supplier here in the U.K, the good news is yes it is available, bad news its £85.00. Ouch,
How confident are you that it is this item that is faulty as it does seem a lot of money to pay out only to find out that I still have the problem.
Les.

 

Les, any way to disconnect them one by 1 to find the fault? Of course this assumes they are normally open (NO) switches. If they are NC (normally closed) You could just short across them to make the cat think the switch was working.

***edit: in the interest of maintaining integrity for future reference I wanted to add this. Above I asked if it could possibly be a stuck ignition gate. For some reason I thought it would make the same noise as a tripped J gate switch. It doesn't. At best one would describe the key in the ignition/stuck flap as a ping. Certainly different than the Bong description. I have no access to that earlier post so added here.

 

+1 to John

Not 100percent confident but give it 70/30 odds that this is the problem.

Your quote seems high for the micro switches. I agree with John in that it would be best to get access into the J Gate and physically see if you have a problem. For me one of the micro switches arm broke on the J Gate’s Round swivel thing.

I’m fortunate enough to have a scrap donor car and found a local electrical shop which stocked generic brand micro switches at inexpensive cost. So I took the scrap car’s parts to him and switched all the microswitches. These things are at that age where fatigue sets in.

 

Les,

giandanielxk8 had a thread on this including a list of potential suppliers for the micro switches.
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...switch-195836/

For my generic microswitches, it was a bit fiddly getting them all into the final position but definitely home DIY-able. I had to drill small holes through the switch bodies and screwed/rivetted them in place. Saved a lot of cash as the jaguar assemblies all come as entire complete units, when all you need is the switch.

As giandanielxk8 is a dental medical student, I don't think he had much problem with these "fillings." LOL

 

Would it not be better to buy a used J Gate. Unplug one plug in the new one? Be about the same price.......