2002 XKR dilema & Stereo stuff
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01-20-2009, 05:26 AM
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2002 XKR dilema & Stereo stuff
Hi Guys,
I have an interesting dliema - I was/am looking for a BMW 840ci Sport and have yet to find a nice one for the right price and condition etc....I'm in the market for a GT - It will be used daily, although the commute is 10miles and at the weekends all over the UK.
My father has an 2002 XKR which he offered me the other day for a very affordable price - He has had it since new and it has been an ocasional car for him (He has had an X-type/Daimler and a Bentley GT). He's managed about 25,000 miles and its beenvery well looked after. He has a spare set of discs and breaks and it had new rear tires, but will probably need some frontsin 2-3k. Nice red and tan/cream with 20" paris wheels.....Its a nice car.
I think the BMW has a tad more space in the back, but both are poor. The jag might have a slightly bigger boot. Both look amazing although the BMW is quite rare, but the jag with those wheels is definately a head turner. I think the jag is a bit lower, but both are comfy.
I am quite tempted....However the sat-nav is crap and while the stereo is the premium alpine one, i have a nice kenwood HU with a phatbox hard drive in my car and a spare kenwood touch screen sat-nav that i was going to fit.
https://www.jaguarforums.com/m_59331/tm.htm
Looking at H20boy's install, its certainly posible to fit an aftermarket stereo - However it uses the screen quite differently...I was wondering if i could hook up the kenwoods av-out to it and use it that way, which may be cool.
Also what are the actual speakers like....I ask as i have a nice pair of McIntosh components in my current car and am curious if it is worth transfering them ???
Cya,
Lee
I have an interesting dliema - I was/am looking for a BMW 840ci Sport and have yet to find a nice one for the right price and condition etc....I'm in the market for a GT - It will be used daily, although the commute is 10miles and at the weekends all over the UK.
My father has an 2002 XKR which he offered me the other day for a very affordable price - He has had it since new and it has been an ocasional car for him (He has had an X-type/Daimler and a Bentley GT). He's managed about 25,000 miles and its beenvery well looked after. He has a spare set of discs and breaks and it had new rear tires, but will probably need some frontsin 2-3k. Nice red and tan/cream with 20" paris wheels.....Its a nice car.
I think the BMW has a tad more space in the back, but both are poor. The jag might have a slightly bigger boot. Both look amazing although the BMW is quite rare, but the jag with those wheels is definately a head turner. I think the jag is a bit lower, but both are comfy.
I am quite tempted....However the sat-nav is crap and while the stereo is the premium alpine one, i have a nice kenwood HU with a phatbox hard drive in my car and a spare kenwood touch screen sat-nav that i was going to fit.
https://www.jaguarforums.com/m_59331/tm.htm
Looking at H20boy's install, its certainly posible to fit an aftermarket stereo - However it uses the screen quite differently...I was wondering if i could hook up the kenwoods av-out to it and use it that way, which may be cool.
Also what are the actual speakers like....I ask as i have a nice pair of McIntosh components in my current car and am curious if it is worth transfering them ???
Cya,
Lee
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RE: 2002 XKR dilema & Stereo stuff
I like the way the Jag looks more than the BMW. I've never driven a BMW but they are a dime a dozen here in the states. You don't see that many Jaguars on the road, at least not here in Oregon.
I think that Jaguar has more class inside and out.
As far as your GPS there's another member here that installed an after market unit and integrated it with his Jaguar's GPS screen. The whole setup looked pretty sharp.
Why do you want a BMW? What does it have that the Jaguar doesn't? Are you looking for more horsepower?
I think that Jaguar has more class inside and out.
As far as your GPS there's another member here that installed an after market unit and integrated it with his Jaguar's GPS screen. The whole setup looked pretty sharp.
Why do you want a BMW? What does it have that the Jaguar doesn't? Are you looking for more horsepower?
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01-20-2009, 10:36 AM
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RE: 2002 XKR dilema & Stereo stuff
That's a tough one. I have always liked the looks of the BMW 840/850 when they came out and the interior, if I recall correctly, is like a cockpit. They were far above what I could afford back in the mid-90s when they were around (and still more than I could afford) but they were pretty rare, even out here in the Los Angeles area. I occasionally see a few of these and they still look cool but a bit dated. I had dismal reliability and maintenance experiences with a 3-series that I owned for 9 years so I would be very wary about another BMW (other friends and acquaintances also had bad experiences).
The XK8/XKR to me still look like art on wheels and the beauty is sort of timeless.
I guess it would come down to a few things between the BMW and the XKR. Price for one thing. The other thing is you know the condition and maintenance history of your dad's XKR while the BMW might be a question mark. Do you have some emotional reservations about getting dad's car?
Good luck,
Doug
The XK8/XKR to me still look like art on wheels and the beauty is sort of timeless.
I guess it would come down to a few things between the BMW and the XKR. Price for one thing. The other thing is you know the condition and maintenance history of your dad's XKR while the BMW might be a question mark. Do you have some emotional reservations about getting dad's car?
Good luck,
Doug
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01-20-2009, 01:44 PM
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RE: 2002 XKR dilema & Stereo stuff
Speakers aren't that great Lee, Alpine branded, but paper nonetheless. You get a set of components up front (the original Alpine had a tweeter, mid, and a woofer) and the rear are just two small 6.5" subwoofers. Its tough to get a loud system in this car, unfortunately.
On the av-outs on your kenwood, whatever you can hook up to the screen (RGB) connection (using the NavTV box, this does RCA-RGB for you), will be displayed...anyway, my deck doesn't show anything on the av-outs until a DVD is playing or displays the MP3 list when on the disc or USB mode. It doesn't ouput anything to the screen like station id, song information, etc under normal circumstances. I doubt the Kenwood deck you have will do that either. I think that is what you were asking about, right?
If you want a larger head unit, like the 7-inch screens, the only way to do it is to remove the auxillary buttons (DSC, heated seats, etc) and relocate them to the glove box, and have a custom fascia constructed. I've seen it done one time, but didn't like the buttons in the glovebox idea myself.
On the av-outs on your kenwood, whatever you can hook up to the screen (RGB) connection (using the NavTV box, this does RCA-RGB for you), will be displayed...anyway, my deck doesn't show anything on the av-outs until a DVD is playing or displays the MP3 list when on the disc or USB mode. It doesn't ouput anything to the screen like station id, song information, etc under normal circumstances. I doubt the Kenwood deck you have will do that either. I think that is what you were asking about, right?
If you want a larger head unit, like the 7-inch screens, the only way to do it is to remove the auxillary buttons (DSC, heated seats, etc) and relocate them to the glove box, and have a custom fascia constructed. I've seen it done one time, but didn't like the buttons in the glovebox idea myself.
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01-21-2009, 05:30 AM
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RE: 2002 XKR dilema & Stereo stuff
Hi There,
Jewel - The 8 series is a rare beast and was discontinued in '99. Its quite a unique car. Far too expensive when produced and did not sell that well because of it. If I see more than a couple driving on our roads in a year its good going and i've been looking out for them ! Have a quick google on bmw 840 for images.
The 840 sport has a 4.4 engine and only 280-290hp by what i recall.I have aarticle with an XK8 comparison and thejag is a tad faster in acceloration. The XKR will certainly have more horse power.
Seismic - I've got an odd 316i sport compact (BMW's own fake M3). I got it when i had a load of points on my licence and the insurance on a large car was astronomical. I've always liked the 8 series and saw one in a car park recently, gushed over it to my now ex and she said that they are probably quite cheap second hand....and they are and that set me in motion.
The XKR was a curveball that my dad mentioned the other day, he offered a price that while a tad high for me in raw savings (10k), is probably achievable. I was expecting to get an 840 for 5-8k, although as such it will be an 97-99 with 100k on the clock. I guess the XKR will be a little more thirsty and there is even less space for someone in the rear - My compact is a coupe and with me at 6'4" basicaly a three seater.
There is a slight eliment of parental control, which at 34 is irritating. Hand me downs and the like too, but then its a beaut of a car. I did almost buy his X-type estate off him (2.5 petrol, 07, 28,000). A very sensible motor and a great price, very easy driving but that was the problem, it was boring with an old man image. It also would have been almost imposible to change the stereo as all the heating controls are via the touch screen.
H20 - What is the NavTV box - you mentioned it in another post, but no model no. - Ebay searching brings up nothing and thier web site doesn't seem to mention Jags. I know the kenwood has dual screen capability, so that may put out the DVD, or it may show CD / MP3 art (I say MP3, but i use flac on a hard drive - phatbox equivolent). The kenwood has a flip out touch screen which is 7" in a single din unit. However if its screen is replicated above that may work well. Alternatively have one screen with Audio and one with Sat-nav maybe....i guess its something to play with.
BTW do you use your steering wheel buttons with your install ???
Thanks,
Lee
Jewel - The 8 series is a rare beast and was discontinued in '99. Its quite a unique car. Far too expensive when produced and did not sell that well because of it. If I see more than a couple driving on our roads in a year its good going and i've been looking out for them ! Have a quick google on bmw 840 for images.
The 840 sport has a 4.4 engine and only 280-290hp by what i recall.I have aarticle with an XK8 comparison and thejag is a tad faster in acceloration. The XKR will certainly have more horse power.
Seismic - I've got an odd 316i sport compact (BMW's own fake M3). I got it when i had a load of points on my licence and the insurance on a large car was astronomical. I've always liked the 8 series and saw one in a car park recently, gushed over it to my now ex and she said that they are probably quite cheap second hand....and they are and that set me in motion.
The XKR was a curveball that my dad mentioned the other day, he offered a price that while a tad high for me in raw savings (10k), is probably achievable. I was expecting to get an 840 for 5-8k, although as such it will be an 97-99 with 100k on the clock. I guess the XKR will be a little more thirsty and there is even less space for someone in the rear - My compact is a coupe and with me at 6'4" basicaly a three seater.
There is a slight eliment of parental control, which at 34 is irritating. Hand me downs and the like too, but then its a beaut of a car. I did almost buy his X-type estate off him (2.5 petrol, 07, 28,000). A very sensible motor and a great price, very easy driving but that was the problem, it was boring with an old man image. It also would have been almost imposible to change the stereo as all the heating controls are via the touch screen.
H20 - What is the NavTV box - you mentioned it in another post, but no model no. - Ebay searching brings up nothing and thier web site doesn't seem to mention Jags. I know the kenwood has dual screen capability, so that may put out the DVD, or it may show CD / MP3 art (I say MP3, but i use flac on a hard drive - phatbox equivolent). The kenwood has a flip out touch screen which is 7" in a single din unit. However if its screen is replicated above that may work well. Alternatively have one screen with Audio and one with Sat-nav maybe....i guess its something to play with.
BTW do you use your steering wheel buttons with your install ???
Thanks,
Lee
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01-21-2009, 11:04 AM
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RE: 2002 XKR dilema & Stereo stuff
Hi Lee, yeah, the NavTV box is really pretty mysterious, i also tried some research during the install, and even the manufacturer's website doesn't mention hardly anything about it. It is a small blue box, about an inch thick, and about the size of 4x6 photo. It takes two RCA video inputs, and converts them to RGB. Seems pretty straightforward, but perhaps they want to keep it on the down low.
I do use my steering wheel controls, though with this car, we only have four (4) programmable options, so I chose SOURCE, VOL up/down, and NEXT TRACK.
If the kenwood deck you're speaking about can output dual screens (or replicate the main screen and use the remote?), and can select which source is running the 2nd, that would work great. (that's also how my JVC describes it in the manual, so it may not be any different)
I still suggest going with the jag, it just has the allure of something unique, though the BMW is also, I think personally the 840 is somewhat dated in styling and shows it. You can't really say that with the XKR. Good luck!
I do use my steering wheel controls, though with this car, we only have four (4) programmable options, so I chose SOURCE, VOL up/down, and NEXT TRACK.
If the kenwood deck you're speaking about can output dual screens (or replicate the main screen and use the remote?), and can select which source is running the 2nd, that would work great. (that's also how my JVC describes it in the manual, so it may not be any different)
I still suggest going with the jag, it just has the allure of something unique, though the BMW is also, I think personally the 840 is somewhat dated in styling and shows it. You can't really say that with the XKR. Good luck!
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