Engine tuning for the N/A?
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Engine tuning for the N/A?
I did a search and didn't find a thread on it. But are there ways to tune the N/A engine? Meaning the one which came in the XK8. I have read about exchanging pulleys and other things with the XKR supercharged engine. But I didn't see anything about increasing power with the XK8.
I know Aston used a version of the AJ-V8 engine for the V8 Vantage which went from 4.3 till 4.7 and they made 380bhp and 420bhp respectively without a supercharger or turbo. Even the 4.3 made considerably more power then the 4.2, with a mere 0,01 increase in displacement. Not sure exactly what Aston did. But are there available options to tune the AJ-V8 N/A to produce more power?
I know Aston used a version of the AJ-V8 engine for the V8 Vantage which went from 4.3 till 4.7 and they made 380bhp and 420bhp respectively without a supercharger or turbo. Even the 4.3 made considerably more power then the 4.2, with a mere 0,01 increase in displacement. Not sure exactly what Aston did. But are there available options to tune the AJ-V8 N/A to produce more power?
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Short answer no. Long answer, it's possible, however, buying an XKR and upgrading that is more cost-effective. Even if you have deep pockets, it doesn't make much sense.
Adding any kind of forced induction to the XK8 would require changing or reinforcing major components like the pistons if you want any sort of reliability. On top of that, a chip and tune on the Jaguar ECU is next to imposible, and even if you did do one, without any other tuning, it would be pointless. You could, theoretically, gain a few horses with exhaust and intake upgrades, but you may just be shifting the power and torque bands if not done properly. You could try increasing the bore, among other things, but this is expensive.
The Aston engines are completely reworked, with many many components made bespoke for the Astons, and most components are not direct fit onto the Jag AJ engines. Thus, they may require extensive modifications to be made compatible.
So, if you are already contemplating you need more power, buy the XKR, then, if you still lust for more power, swap the supercharger for a Twin Screw unit if you want 600 ponies. If you do end up with an XK8 and want more power without buying a new car, you could always LS swap, which some people frown upon.
Adding any kind of forced induction to the XK8 would require changing or reinforcing major components like the pistons if you want any sort of reliability. On top of that, a chip and tune on the Jaguar ECU is next to imposible, and even if you did do one, without any other tuning, it would be pointless. You could, theoretically, gain a few horses with exhaust and intake upgrades, but you may just be shifting the power and torque bands if not done properly. You could try increasing the bore, among other things, but this is expensive.
The Aston engines are completely reworked, with many many components made bespoke for the Astons, and most components are not direct fit onto the Jag AJ engines. Thus, they may require extensive modifications to be made compatible.
So, if you are already contemplating you need more power, buy the XKR, then, if you still lust for more power, swap the supercharger for a Twin Screw unit if you want 600 ponies. If you do end up with an XK8 and want more power without buying a new car, you could always LS swap, which some people frown upon.
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You do, however, have more luck when it comes to handling modifications. You can install a Quaife LSD, upgrade to polyurethane bushings, you can buy stiffer or lowered springs from Adamesh and Paragon. I think it is not too hard to find aftermarket shocks and upgraded brakes or even go custom made. You could also put the Jag on a diet (and sacrifice luxury), by stripping the interior, among other things.
This guy supercharged his XK8 and did a write up:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...ed-xk8-127904/
Here is a discussion about swapping a manual transmission:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...to-xk8-114140/
This guy also sought to do performance enhancements to his XK8:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...ormance-57035/
XK8 exhaust mods:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...estions-96122/
The Reverend also wanted to mod his XK8 a few years ago.
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...e-power-37610/
As far as I know, only Tony has done major upgrades to an XK8/R. I'm not sure which one he is running. He's a member here, but I forgot his username. If you contact him he can properly guide you. He basically makes project cars for a living and is exceedingly knowledgeable of these Jags.
http://www.paragondesignuk.com/xkproject.htm
This guy supercharged his XK8 and did a write up:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...ed-xk8-127904/
Here is a discussion about swapping a manual transmission:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...to-xk8-114140/
This guy also sought to do performance enhancements to his XK8:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...ormance-57035/
XK8 exhaust mods:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...estions-96122/
The Reverend also wanted to mod his XK8 a few years ago.
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...e-power-37610/
As far as I know, only Tony has done major upgrades to an XK8/R. I'm not sure which one he is running. He's a member here, but I forgot his username. If you contact him he can properly guide you. He basically makes project cars for a living and is exceedingly knowledgeable of these Jags.
http://www.paragondesignuk.com/xkproject.htm
Last edited by giandanielxk8; 03-13-2018 at 04:58 PM.
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Giandanielxk8, always you man. Always you. Thanks!
I was not really thinking about forcing induction but rather keeping it N/A. Otherwise I would think a XKR engine transplant would be easier?
Ok. So probably cheaper finding an used V8 Vantage engine and dropping it in a XK8 it seems. Should fit right?
Yes, including me. Wouldn't have a Jaguar with a Chevy engine.
Short answer no. Long answer, it's possible, however, buying an XKR and upgrading that is more cost-effective. Even if you have deep pockets, it doesn't make much sense.
Adding any kind of forced induction to the XK8 would require changing or reinforcing major components like the pistons if you want any sort of reliability.
Adding any kind of forced induction to the XK8 would require changing or reinforcing major components like the pistons if you want any sort of reliability.
Yes, including me. Wouldn't have a Jaguar with a Chevy engine.
#5
Not a case of not wanting to buy a XKR. I'm just researching in case the right car that pops up is a XK8. It's looking to me I won't have my pick of the litter here. I may have to just buy the best X100 I can find, regardless if XK8 or XKR. Unless I want to wait for a long time or pay through my nose to the crazy people asking 30K + for a X100.
I would be fine with a XKR oh yes. Although I do prefer the sound of N/A engines though. But XKR would be great anyhow.
I would be fine with a XKR oh yes. Although I do prefer the sound of N/A engines though. But XKR would be great anyhow.
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It's probable that the Aston engines fit. Now, would you have to fabricate custom engine mounts? There's also the question of if the electrics would play nice between the Jag stuff and the Aston stuff. You would be treading into uncharted waters. An XKR engine transplant (with transmission as well) is easier and has been done.
Have you considered buying an XKR and having it imported from across the pond? It may even be cheaper. BTW, I edited post #3 and added a few links worth reading regarding XK8 performance mods.
Have you considered buying an XKR and having it imported from across the pond? It may even be cheaper. BTW, I edited post #3 and added a few links worth reading regarding XK8 performance mods.
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You do, however, have more luck when it comes to handling modifications. You can install a Quaife LSD, upgrade to polyurethane bushings, you can buy stiffer or lowered springs from Adamesh and Paragon. I think it is not too hard to find aftermarket shocks and upgraded brakes or even go custom made. You could also put the Jag on a diet (and sacrifice luxury), by stripping the interior, among other things.
This guy supercharged his XK8 and did a write up:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...ed-xk8-127904/
Here is a discussion about swapping a manual transmission:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...to-xk8-114140/
This guy also sought to do performance enhancements to his XK8:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...ormance-57035/
XK8 exhaust mods:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...estions-96122/
The Reverend also wanted to mod his XK8 a few years ago.
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...e-power-37610/
As far as I know, only Tony has done major upgrades to an XK8/R. I'm not sure which one he is running. He's a member here, but I forgot his username. If you contact him he can properly guide you. He basically makes project cars for a living and is exceedingly knowledgeable of these Jags.
Paragon Design UK - Project XK8 Track Car
This guy supercharged his XK8 and did a write up:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...ed-xk8-127904/
Here is a discussion about swapping a manual transmission:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...to-xk8-114140/
This guy also sought to do performance enhancements to his XK8:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...ormance-57035/
XK8 exhaust mods:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...estions-96122/
The Reverend also wanted to mod his XK8 a few years ago.
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...e-power-37610/
As far as I know, only Tony has done major upgrades to an XK8/R. I'm not sure which one he is running. He's a member here, but I forgot his username. If you contact him he can properly guide you. He basically makes project cars for a living and is exceedingly knowledgeable of these Jags.
Paragon Design UK - Project XK8 Track Car
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It's probable that the Aston engines fit. Now, would you have to fabricate custom engine mounts? There's also the question of if the electrics would play nice between the Jag stuff and the Aston stuff. You would be treading into uncharted waters. An XKR engine transplant (with transmission as well) is easier and has been done.
Have you considered buying an XKR and having it imported from across the pond? It may even be cheaper. BTW, I edited post #3 and added a few links worth reading regarding XK8 performance mods.
Have you considered buying an XKR and having it imported from across the pond? It may even be cheaper. BTW, I edited post #3 and added a few links worth reading regarding XK8 performance mods.
Buying an U.S. X100 car is something that has crossed my mind. But this would be my last alternative, as it would mean buying a car sight unseen.
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