How to price a totally custom XK8
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How to price a totally custom XK8
I've been thinking about selling my 2002 XK8. I'd really like to get a 07 or newer. (Or even a DB7 a friend says he'll sell me! Stunning and my mechanic works on them too!)
Thing is, it's so custom and upgraded, I don't know where to begin on a price. I've done every major mechanical job, tensioners, hydraulic lines, new coolant system, power steering lines and pump, many many more mechanical updates. Then there's the overall condition. Arden body kit, custom wheels, all custom badging, custom paint, new two tone black and oatmeal leather interior, new veneer fascia with piano black details, black headliner, new fully loaded audio with touchscreen and all Bluetooth access, rear seat delete with black leather jaguar travel trunk fitted, many more custom details. And amazing mina gallery exhaust.
I know I'll never see what I've put into it but surely it's worth some premium more than a standard XK8.
It's also a JCNA concourse winning car as well!
It's as reliable as any will ever be and should give many more miles of trouble free driving.
Thing is, it's so custom and upgraded, I don't know where to begin on a price. I've done every major mechanical job, tensioners, hydraulic lines, new coolant system, power steering lines and pump, many many more mechanical updates. Then there's the overall condition. Arden body kit, custom wheels, all custom badging, custom paint, new two tone black and oatmeal leather interior, new veneer fascia with piano black details, black headliner, new fully loaded audio with touchscreen and all Bluetooth access, rear seat delete with black leather jaguar travel trunk fitted, many more custom details. And amazing mina gallery exhaust.
I know I'll never see what I've put into it but surely it's worth some premium more than a standard XK8.
It's also a JCNA concourse winning car as well!
It's as reliable as any will ever be and should give many more miles of trouble free driving.
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That's going to be a problem. For cars that are truly iconic (1960s Corvettes or 1957 T-bird, for example) normally someone in with the interest and in a financial position to spend the bucks wants as stock as possible--doing a bunch of custom mods likely diminishes the value of those cars.
Our vintage XK8 are not yet quite in the iconic category but it strikes me that the limited market of potential buyers out there for these cars would similarly value a "stock" vehicle over one that has had a bunch of mods. So as limited as the appeal would be to buy a 10+ year old Jaguar to begin with, the audience for a "customized" Jaguar would be even more limited, imho.
I guess you can start with autotrader or something and see what you can fetch.
Doug
Our vintage XK8 are not yet quite in the iconic category but it strikes me that the limited market of potential buyers out there for these cars would similarly value a "stock" vehicle over one that has had a bunch of mods. So as limited as the appeal would be to buy a 10+ year old Jaguar to begin with, the audience for a "customized" Jaguar would be even more limited, imho.
I guess you can start with autotrader or something and see what you can fetch.
Doug
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"It's as reliable as any will ever be and should give many more miles of trouble free driving."
Sounds like a car I would keep. Putting all the personal touches rarely returns what you have put into it. But the more serious mechanical updates should.
I'd search around for what they bring in your area and put it at the top end of the prices. It would certainly present well for any one looking for one. All of this you already know I'm sure.
Sounds like a car I would keep. Putting all the personal touches rarely returns what you have put into it. But the more serious mechanical updates should.
I'd search around for what they bring in your area and put it at the top end of the prices. It would certainly present well for any one looking for one. All of this you already know I'm sure.
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That's going to be a problem. For cars that are truly iconic (1960s Corvettes or 1957 T-bird, for example) normally someone in with the interest and in a financial position to spend the bucks wants as stock as possible--doing a bunch of custom mods likely diminishes the value of those cars.
Our vintage XK8 are not yet quite in the iconic category but it strikes me that the limited market of potential buyers out there for these cars would similarly value a "stock" vehicle over one that has had a bunch of mods. So as limited as the appeal would be to buy a 10+ year old Jaguar to begin with, the audience for a "customized" Jaguar would be even more limited, imho.
I guess you can start with autotrader or something and see what you can fetch.
Doug
Our vintage XK8 are not yet quite in the iconic category but it strikes me that the limited market of potential buyers out there for these cars would similarly value a "stock" vehicle over one that has had a bunch of mods. So as limited as the appeal would be to buy a 10+ year old Jaguar to begin with, the audience for a "customized" Jaguar would be even more limited, imho.
I guess you can start with autotrader or something and see what you can fetch.
Doug
Good luck with your new vehicle, whatever it is.
Edit: Let me clarify what I meant to say. Such a customized car, in such great shape and with all of the mechanical issues addressed may, in fact, bring more than a bone stock car of the same model year, but almost certainly not recoup the "investment" in personal taste issues.
Last edited by Kevin D; 01-20-2015 at 07:37 PM. Reason: clarification
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+1 to what everybody else said but I think you already knew this. That's a really nice car and I personally think what you have done should in no way distract from any potential buyers wanting the car. Some folks go to "personal" when they customize but in your case everything you have done enhances the stock car and any one would be proud to own it.
What's it worth to another buyer is anybody's guess. Here's what bone stock cars just sold for this week at the Scottsdale Barrett Jackson auction:
Been watching the auctions all week,
$12,650 for a 97 XK8 with 64K miles
$18,700 for a 2000 XK8 with 30K miles
$25850 for a 98 XK8 with 28K miles
$33000 for a 97 XK8 no miles listed
I'd say your best bet would be a high end auction. BJ is coming to Palm Beach in April!
What's it worth to another buyer is anybody's guess. Here's what bone stock cars just sold for this week at the Scottsdale Barrett Jackson auction:
Been watching the auctions all week,
$12,650 for a 97 XK8 with 64K miles
$18,700 for a 2000 XK8 with 30K miles
$25850 for a 98 XK8 with 28K miles
$33000 for a 97 XK8 no miles listed
I'd say your best bet would be a high end auction. BJ is coming to Palm Beach in April!
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It will be a hard sell depending on how much you are looking to recoup. I would think an auction might be a good place to sell, that way you get true market value at least if some buyers bid.
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What's it worth to another buyer is anybody's guess. Here's what bone stock cars just sold for this week at the Scottsdale Barrett Jackson auction:
Been watching the auctions all week,
$12,650 for a 97 XK8 with 64K miles
$18,700 for a 2000 XK8 with 30K miles
$25850 for a 98 XK8 with 28K miles
$33000 for a 97 XK8 no miles listed
I'd say your best bet would be a high end auction. BJ is coming to Palm Beach in April!
Been watching the auctions all week,
$12,650 for a 97 XK8 with 64K miles
$18,700 for a 2000 XK8 with 30K miles
$25850 for a 98 XK8 with 28K miles
$33000 for a 97 XK8 no miles listed
I'd say your best bet would be a high end auction. BJ is coming to Palm Beach in April!
Maybe Utah = too much snow??? We don't get much snow though.
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Phil,
I've been wondering where you've been lately, I've missed your posts. As the owner of both a 2002XKR and a 2010XKR, I understand your dilemma, and I couldn't have chosen one over the other. However, if truth be told, I like my 2002 better. It certainly isn't as quick, doesn't handle nearly as well, has a suspension not nearly as capable as the 2010, but....it looks (to me) so much better, sexier, more sensual, more classic, garners more compliments than any car I have ever owned, and gives me a greater sense of occasion every time I drive it.
On the other hand, the 2010 does so many things better, and sharp paddle shifting, and gobs of power are so addicting.
As for what you can get for your car, Jandreu's listing of the XK8/XKR models sold at auction were quite surprising, reflecting higher prices than we've seen in years on these cars. Ebay listings reflect this as well. I think you could be aggressive in your pricing because the work you've done on your car is exceptional and will have broad appeal. Just as with my Pantera, strict originality on these cars is not specifically valued over tasteful, and model enhancing improvements, and yours is certainly in that category.
Finally, make sure this is the step you want to take by driving the newer models, as well as some others like the F-type and even other brands like the Aston of which you spoke. Then make your choice. You might be surprised.
Keep us in the loop.
I've been wondering where you've been lately, I've missed your posts. As the owner of both a 2002XKR and a 2010XKR, I understand your dilemma, and I couldn't have chosen one over the other. However, if truth be told, I like my 2002 better. It certainly isn't as quick, doesn't handle nearly as well, has a suspension not nearly as capable as the 2010, but....it looks (to me) so much better, sexier, more sensual, more classic, garners more compliments than any car I have ever owned, and gives me a greater sense of occasion every time I drive it.
On the other hand, the 2010 does so many things better, and sharp paddle shifting, and gobs of power are so addicting.
As for what you can get for your car, Jandreu's listing of the XK8/XKR models sold at auction were quite surprising, reflecting higher prices than we've seen in years on these cars. Ebay listings reflect this as well. I think you could be aggressive in your pricing because the work you've done on your car is exceptional and will have broad appeal. Just as with my Pantera, strict originality on these cars is not specifically valued over tasteful, and model enhancing improvements, and yours is certainly in that category.
Finally, make sure this is the step you want to take by driving the newer models, as well as some others like the F-type and even other brands like the Aston of which you spoke. Then make your choice. You might be surprised.
Keep us in the loop.
Last edited by tberg; 01-20-2015 at 09:47 PM.
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I was also very surprised at the auction prices however at a high end auction like BJ you get more folks of means and let's face it a well cared for XK8/R is a seductive mistress that carries it's age well and appeals to folks of taste.
A well presented car like Phil's would do very well at an auction like BJ in Palm Beach this April. Just in time for top down weather and an audience looking to spend. 20 to 25 K is lunch money for a lot of these bidders so a sexy car in this price range is a no brainier.
A well presented car like Phil's would do very well at an auction like BJ in Palm Beach this April. Just in time for top down weather and an audience looking to spend. 20 to 25 K is lunch money for a lot of these bidders so a sexy car in this price range is a no brainier.
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I've taken it to Charlotte Cars And Coffee and had tons of interest in it. I threw out a number of 18K and almost sold it! But I just couldn't when it came down to the line.
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It's always amazing too me how everyone always says the X100 is an iconic classic but the most popular ones seem to be modified to some degree. Ive been to a lot of car shows and when I put mine in line with stock cars, it's the definate crowd pleaser. I've found that most older collectors tend to want the stock examples but younger enthusiasts go for the lowered, exhaust note improved, custom examples.
I know it will take s special buyer to want my mods, and I know il NEVER get out a fraction of my expenditures (never did it for profit) but just from reactions over the last couple years, I think I could do better than a standard 2002.
On a side note, I have been told, even by the concours judge from JCNA that even though he's not a huge fan of modifications, he admitted mine was the perfect example of how to do it right. Everything carefully thought out and extremely detailed and well executed. No evidence of any botched jobs or crazy racerboy add ons! And he completly approved of the body kit, being an Arden style.
I know it will take s special buyer to want my mods, and I know il NEVER get out a fraction of my expenditures (never did it for profit) but just from reactions over the last couple years, I think I could do better than a standard 2002.
On a side note, I have been told, even by the concours judge from JCNA that even though he's not a huge fan of modifications, he admitted mine was the perfect example of how to do it right. Everything carefully thought out and extremely detailed and well executed. No evidence of any botched jobs or crazy racerboy add ons! And he completly approved of the body kit, being an Arden style.