XK8 / XKR ( X100 ) 1996 - 2006

Lifters

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 14, 2016 | 09:16 AM
  #1  
mrplow58's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Veteran Member
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 1,231
Likes: 237
From: Hobart, IN
Default Lifters

What type of lifters does the 4.0 engine have. When mine is hot, I have a tapping noise on the right bank at idle. If I need to change it out, are special tools needed.....Thanks in advance.......Mike
 
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2016 | 09:36 AM
  #2  
test point's Avatar
Veteran Member
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 5,390
Likes: 1,116
From: Ellijay
Default

No lifters . . . overhead cam acting on a valve spring bucket.

Seldom see valve adjustments needed. Shim thickness adjustment is a real pain.
 
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2016 | 10:45 AM
  #3  
jrb53's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 429
Likes: 89
From: smithfield ri usa
Default

you should take the valve cover off and check the type of tensioners on your car if they are the plastic type change them to the updated metal ones or you could lose your engine. it is not a hard job to do yourself using the zip tie method, you can find that in recent posts .good luck jrb 53
 
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2016 | 11:48 AM
  #4  
Addicted2boost's Avatar
Veteran Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 3,125
Likes: 1,280
Default

Originally Posted by test point
Shim thickness adjustment is a real pain.
You got that right! I just got done rebuilding my heads along with metal HG's. I figure 234K miles it was due for an adjustment. It was VERY time consuming. I have seen 2 guys change out one shim before. Quite interesting.
 
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2016 | 12:33 PM
  #5  
NBCat's Avatar
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 6,068
Likes: 2,983
From: Newport Beach, California
Default

Originally Posted by mrplow58
What type of lifters does the 4.0 engine have. When mine is hot, I have a tapping noise on the right bank at idle. If I need to change it out, are special tools needed.....Thanks in advance.......Mike
With the engine cold, check each valve clearance with the cam lobe facing up to see if the clearance is within specification. If it is not within the specification, the shim must be replaced with one to give the correct clearance. There are tools designed to depress the valve spring so the shim can be removed, or the camshafts must be removed with the clearances noted. Under no circumstances is the engine to be rotated anti-clock when viewed from the front as damage to the main and rod bearings may result.

If the clearance is within specification, but you are still having a tapping noise, there may be a sticking valve caused by carbon deposits on the back of the valve.

Refer to JTIS or the Workshop Manual for the correct procedure.
 
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2016 | 02:53 PM
  #6  
plums's Avatar
Veteran Member
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 9,733
Likes: 2,202
From: on-the-edge
Default

Originally Posted by NBCat
Under no circumstances is the engine to be rotated anti-clock when viewed from the front as damage to the main and rod bearings may result.
Not questioning the validity, but what is the mechanism that causes this?

I could see valve train components, but haven't heard of this one before.
 
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2016 | 03:01 PM
  #7  
RaceDiagnostics's Avatar
Veteran Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,854
Likes: 987
From: UK
Default

I had a ticking noise for years that I thought was coming from the valves, it turned out to be a cracked EGR flexi pipe.
 
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2016 | 04:04 PM
  #8  
mrplow58's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Veteran Member
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 1,231
Likes: 237
From: Hobart, IN
Default

I took the right valve cover off, and saw that the secondary adjuster had been changed once before. It was metal. I put a new one in, and the noise has gone away. I guess they wear out. Thanks for the help......Mike
 
Reply
Old Mar 14, 2016 | 04:07 PM
  #9  
NBCat's Avatar
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 6,068
Likes: 2,983
From: Newport Beach, California
Default

Originally Posted by plums
Not questioning the validity, but what is the mechanism that causes this?

I could see valve train components, but haven't heard of this one before.
If you have access to JTIS, it is mentioned several times.

There is a possibility that turning the engine in the opposite direction can cause damage to the bearing surfaces by the crankshaft.
 
Reply
Old Mar 15, 2016 | 04:30 AM
  #10  
Addicted2boost's Avatar
Veteran Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 3,125
Likes: 1,280
Default

Originally Posted by mrplow58
I took the right valve cover off, and saw that the secondary adjuster had been changed once before. It was metal. I put a new one in, and the noise has gone away. I guess they wear out. Thanks for the help......Mike
Just curious, what led you to replace the tensioner? Did the shoe look crooked that the chain rode on??
 
Reply
Old Mar 15, 2016 | 05:26 AM
  #11  
plums's Avatar
Veteran Member
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 9,733
Likes: 2,202
From: on-the-edge
Default

Originally Posted by NBCat
If you have access to JTIS, it is mentioned several times.

There is a possibility that turning the engine in the opposite direction can cause damage to the bearing surfaces by the crankshaft.
As a general rule, I can recognise that turning the crankshaft in the opposite
direction with the valve train connected might be not so good for anything
beyond the crank gear.

But, I am still doubtful that it applies specifically to crank and rod bearings.

I am familiar with most of JTIS, but I looked again.

There are no cautions about direction of crank rotation in sections such
as valve adjustment, tensioner replacement, camshaft sprocket replacement
and even connecting rod bearing replacement.
 
Reply
Old Mar 15, 2016 | 07:31 AM
  #12  
mrplow58's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Veteran Member
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 1,231
Likes: 237
From: Hobart, IN
Default

Originally Posted by Addicted2boost
Just curious, what led you to replace the tensioner? Did the shoe look crooked that the chain rode on??
I was reading what was being sent my way, and that seemed to be the main cause........Let's just call it FEAR!!! As long as I had everything apart, for the inspection, it seemed foolish not to replace the tensioner......Thanks.......Mike
 
Reply
Old Mar 15, 2016 | 08:13 AM
  #13  
test point's Avatar
Veteran Member
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 5,390
Likes: 1,116
From: Ellijay
Default

If I remember correctly yours is the second replacement of the metal tensioners that has been reported on this forum.

Since the metal ones came out in '02 that is now 14 yeas and nothing lasts forever.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Serlock
XJ ( X351 )
3
Mar 20, 2016 02:07 PM
Ids381
X-Type ( X400 )
2
Mar 16, 2016 07:39 AM
Stuart1960
E type ( XK-E )
3
Mar 14, 2016 04:13 PM
asleach2889
XJS ( X27 )
3
Mar 13, 2016 09:07 PM
Doug Gordon
XK8 / XKR ( X100 )
5
Mar 13, 2016 09:02 PM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:09 AM.