Thanks a lot for all these answers, according to benzworld forum automatic transmission should be serviced with ATF 134, has anyone tried it on the 722.6 / W5A580 gearbox?

Also has anyone seen on an XK8/R the interior wood trim that i have on my car? Here's a picture : https://photos.app.goo.gl/Z3TS9WgteWLYLEWj6
It's the only one i've seen with this color and i'm even wondering if it isn't some customization made by one of the previous owners.

 

Ryan, I think I've heard of carbon fiber interiors in some special edition (could even be X150), but as I recall that was later years. What do you see, is it lacquered wood, or painted wood? Can you even see that it is wood? I can't tell from the photos.

Ryan, black wood does exist, but I've never heard of ebony interior for example.
John

 

Ryan,

I had what can best be described as a troubleshooting head ache when I tried fixing my trunk lights.... bordering on a fiasco. A lot of Jaguar owners understandably give up and just live without the trunk lights. I I even had to pull out the electrical diagram to try and diagnose the problem. Needless to say, the good rule of thumb on a job, is to make sure you have all the spare parts you MAY need, and there is always the risk of breaking some thing else while you are on the job.

To cut a long story short, I have the following two bits - microswitch and diode, if you want them. I'll happily post them to you in Paris, from Bahrain, if you private message me your address. Hope you don't mind waiting, as postage here is a bit slow.

 

Welcome to the forum, a great place to learn about your car.

Not be picky, the transmission has fluid in it, not oil. Correct terminology helps keep confusion to a minimum. No , don't use the Chrysler ATF +4. It's not the correct specification for the 722.6 used in your car. Not all 722.6 Mercedes transmissions are built the same, there are low performance 722.6's and higher performance 722.6 transmissions. Your car has the high performance one, and specs for the fluid are not the same. The only Chrysler's with the 722.6 that used the high performance fluid like your XKR is the Crossfire. The other Chryslers do use the ATF +4

don't be concerned about all the different opinions on the internet. The only one you should listen to is the manufacturer of the car / transmission. They made the thing, which puts their recommendation a little more than opinion, in my view. Going against the manufactures recommendations usually turns out badly

Yes, once you have 8-10 liters of the correct fluid in hand, get it changed ASAP. I did mine myself, but next time I'll probably take it to a shop I trust. They have the specialized equipment that makes go a lot faster and easier too.

The XKR's which have the Mercedes sourced 722.6 transmission are pretty particular regarding the correct fluid. Putting in a Mercedes spec approved.fluid DOES make a difference.

I first tried the Mopar brand ATF +4 fluid. It led to several nagging transmissions issues, including clunking, and delayed engagement when going from neutral to D.

So I researched the fluid spec'd by Mercedes for the varients of the 722.6 transmission.

I found this one is approved by Mercedes, and easy to find on ebay: The Fuch Titan 4234

The Fuch Titan 4234 fluid. is less costly than the Mercedes branded fluid, and is one of few fluids meeting the Mercedes specifications.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/8-Liter-Fuchs-TITAN-ATF-4134-Automatic-Trans-Fluid-Mercedes-Dodge-Jag/151595797513?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid =p2057872.m2749.l2649


NOTE: many Dodge and Chrysler cars also use the 722.6 transmission , but most of them are set up to use the +4 type fluid. Only the more performances oriented Chrysler Crossfire uses same the Mercedes spec. fluid as is used in the 722.6 Jaguar applications.

Z

PS: IIRC, from one of the Mercedes forums:

What Fluid Can I Use For The 722.6 Transmission?

The short answer is that you just use the genuine Mercedes ATF for the 722.6 or the 722.9 transmissions. You will not lose any sleep during the night and there are three different fluids you can use in the W210 722.6 transmission. (These fluids cost approximately $12 - 15 per liter).

MB 236.10 sheet - ATF 3403, aka 722.6 fluid (MB Part # 001-989-21-03-10)

MB 236.12 sheet - ATF 3353, aka 722.9 fluid (MB Part # 001-989-45-03-10)

MB 236.14 sheet - ATF 134 or 4134, aka "new" 722.9 fluid (MB Part # 001-989-68-03-10)

Mercedes always recommends the latest fluid for the 722.6 transmission but there is nothing wrong to use the older fluids (your car came with the 236.10 fluid).

The intermediate answer is that you can also use whatever is on the official Mercedes approved list for each spec sheet. However these fluids are not easy to find in the USA, although more vendors are starting to carry them now. Here are the ones on the (current) official approved list for each spec sheet: (These fluids can be found as low as around $10 - 12 per liter).

MB 236.10 sheet

MB 236.10 Flüssigkeitsgetriebeöl (ATF) A 001 989 21 03 Daimler AG

Mercedes-Benz Getriebeöl Blatt 236.10 Daimler AG

Shell ATF 3403-M 115

(So there is only one non-Mercedes fluid on this current list).

MB 236.12 sheet

Aral Getriebeol ATF M12

Fuchs Titan ATF 3353 Fuchs

MB 236.12 ATF 3353 A 001 989 45 03 Daimler AG

Mercedes-Benz Automatik-Getriebeöl Blatt 236.12 Daimler AG

Mobil ATF 3353

Shell ATF 3353

(So there are four non-Mercedes fluids on this current list).

MB 236.14 sheet

Fuchs TITAN ATF 4134

Fuchs TITAN EG ATF 134

MB 236.14 ATF NAG2VSport A 001 989 68 03 Daimler AG

Mercedes-Benz Automatik-Getriebeöl Blatt 236.14 Daimler AG

Mercedes-Benz Getriebeöl Blatt 236.14 Daimler AG

Mobil ATF 134

Shell ATF134

(So there are four non-Mercedes fluids on this current list).


Z

 

Amazon sell the Gunson Eezibleed kit for about €20 - you fill the bottle with fluid, attach it to the brake fluid reservoir and the other end to the spare tyre to pressurise it then open each bleed valve in turn. This is what I used to change the brake fluid on my XKR - its very easy to do single handed and avoids having to pump the brake pedal (which can damage the seals). I bought a 1L bottle of DOT4 fluid - again on Amazon.

 

Yes it's definetly probably wood, i removed the area around the gear shifter this week-end because i needed to repair my ashtray lid which was broken. from the underneath it's a non treated raw and clear wood, looks almot like plywood.

From what i could see on google images with "ebony wood jaguar" it doesn't look like it, mine is a subtle almost deep green / brown color and has no woodgrain in it but looks like wood with a very thick layer of lacquer over it. Carbon fiber would look different to me, i don't think it is.

I'll post some closeup photos, this afternoon. Thanks

 

Wow, thanks a lot david. I'll PM you right away

 

Thanks a lot. I agree with you, it's best to stick with the manufacturer recommandation and that's what i'm trying to do. The problem is : Jaguar and mercedes originally said that this gearbox is sealed for life (jaguar still claims it if i'm not mistaken) and as you said, there is several varations of the same gearbox depending on the torque capacity and on which vehicle it as mounted on.

Am i right to say that i can choose ANY of the following depending on availability and price?

Fuchs TITAN ATF 4134
Fuchs TITAN EG ATF 134
MB 236.14 ATF NAG2VSport A 001 989 68 03 Daimler AG
Mercedes-Benz Automatik-Getriebeöl Blatt 236.14 Daimler AG
Mercedes-Benz Getriebeöl Blatt 236.14 Daimler AG
Mobil ATF 134
Shell ATF134

 

Seems like a nice "tool" to have ! thanks !

 

here are some photos of the interior wood trim :

https://photos.app.goo.gl/cNV5MJ44w8RQxBAa8
https://photos.app.goo.gl/foE4uwCjGvBrhTS98
https://photos.app.goo.gl/eEKP6CsxUPPGo6zd7

Can someone tell me if it was a regular jaguar trim and its name? maybe with my color codes in my signature?

nearly all versions i've seen have walnut wood trim like this :

 

Is yours like this? Hard to tell for sure from photos you posted.

This is from the X100 wikipedia page. Always thought it was odd that they used a photo of such a rare wood color.

 

I think, but I am not sure, yours might be the Grey Stained Birds Eye Maple. I have seen your trim in pictures before and am certain it is a factory option.

 

Nope, this one looks too green, line has definetly some green to it but darker and it's mixed with brown. My pics are not ideal, it was late and i had no light, i'll take better ones tomorrow.

 

Bingo! http://ipocars.com/vinfo/jaguar/xk8_convertible___birdseye_maple-1999.html

Thats exactly the same as mine, nice option i like this trim and it's one of the reasons i chose this car over other ones.

 

<div style="text-align:left;"><br /><br />yes, any of those. I'm using the Fuch's that I listed in my post with the ebay link. It did solve some nagging issues as mentioned. <br /><br />As far as the manifactures changng their minds about some specifications, or the "sealed for life thing" (BTW, jaguar doesn't still reccomend that's "sealed for eternity" nonsense), manufacturers change things ALL THE TIME. They DO learn from warranty repair feedback and often modify specs, or even do a 180 about-face. Otherwise they would never have to issue Technical Service Bulletins (TSB's). And we know there are plenty of those as evidence of a manufacturers continuing learning curve after a product is first released.<br /><br />Z </div>

 

Yep, and it's never a bad idea to change your mind when your first opinion was wrong!
Thanks, i'll try to find one of these transmission fluids.

Any 722.6 remplacement kit can be used for the filter and the pan gasket ?

I see you have 2 e types, how nice ! Would you say that the XKR is up to the heritage ?

 

as far as I know, yes. I suggest buying from pelicanparts.com : https://www.pelicanparts.com/Mercedes-Benz/index-SC.htm

They have genuine Mercedes parts. Unlike the internet / ebay sellers who advertise Mercedes OEM parts, but sell you a Chinese knock-off. Pelican has quicker shipping than the usual Jaguar vendors (who I use for all non-transmission related orders)

I made the mistake of ordering an ebay sellers kit that included the Conductor Plate+Filter+Connector+Gasket. The gasket was OK, the filter was a little cheap looking, but the conductor plate which looked OK, was not up to snuff., ( The transmission temperature sensor is part of the Conductor plate) and neither was the electrical connector. After installation I not get a "transmission too hot" warning every couple of months or so. I know for a fact the transmission is not too hot because on some occasions the warning comes on on a stone cold engine. Other times I've check the trans. temp with the code reader and it is in the acceptable range. The electrical connector has crap O-rings. They leak trans fluid when the weather is really cold. So I replaced the connector with a genuine Mercedes part . End of leaks ! I can live with the false temperature readings as long as they are infrequent. But if they become more troublesome, I'll replace the conductor plate with a genuine Mercedes part.


I "had" 2 e types in the 1970's. I don't still own them, I'm not a car collector. Whatever I buy is my main daily driver transportation, or driven very often at least. So after 10 years or so, I generally want something different. After I had the e types and other fine British sport cars for many years, I sold them and started driving Shelby Mustangs. Which I continued to do for three decades. My clutch leg has finally given up the performance of clutch duties, so I started looking around for an automatic transmission car, that was a really distinctive car, and also was affordable for a retiree. I looked at everything. It didn't take long before the XKR jumped to the top of the list.

The XKR / XK8 cars do have some styling cues taken from the e type, and those salutes to the e type are very well done. However, the e-types and XKR's were built to fulfill different purposes, so a direct comparison is unfair to either car, in my view,

Z