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Old Apr 20, 2023 | 04:24 PM
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I had the same exact idea for a floating screen, mounting in the spot of the old NAV. I was going to design a mount, but I found yours on Thingverse when I was browsing for cool stuff to make with my new 3D printer. I'm insanely grateful. (I actually purchased a Sovol SV06+ to make the mount, and possibly to print small parts that I would otherwise need to get from the UK.)

I had also planned on possibly mounting 3 physical guages in the area where the stereo is now. I may try to modify your blocking plate to accept 3 dial guages. I figure if I get quality chrome ringed guages, they'll look nice, and stock-ish. Wish me luck.

Cheers. And thanks again for the mount files. Saved me a ton of time.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2023 | 08:17 PM
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Did you need to purchase the patch lead along with the 12 pin interface? On the InCarTek website, it says that it's necessary. (They recommended the 29-000)
Did you get this lead? Or did it work without it?

I have the premium system, so I do need to purchase the amp bypass cable.

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QUOTE=MonkeyBrain;2611443]Oh dear... we've all been there...
unfortunately I don't have any photos from the wiring however I can describe what you should expect (from memory).
  1. Joying provides adaptor from their head unit to standard ISO connector (consisting of 2 8-pins connectors)
  2. this needs to be connected to an interface (Jaguar XK8/ XKR (2000-2005) steering wheel control interface (STANDARD AUDIO) 12 pin - InCarTec)
    1. this will provide help connecting with the car 12-pin
    2. it also adapts to steering wheel controls
    3. it comes with instructions to connect a few lose wires
  3. you'll be left with a few wires to connect (i.e. GPS antenna, microphone, reverse camera)
  4. from there everything should fit and work (apart from the antenna which no longer extend on my car)

let me know if it helps![/QUOTE]
 
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Old Apr 26, 2023 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by dman928
Did you need to purchase the patch lead along with the 12 pin interface? On the InCarTek website, it says that it's necessary. (They recommended the 29-000)
Did you get this lead? Or did it work without it?

I have the premium system, so I do need to purchase the amp bypass cable.

Cheers
Dave

QUOTE=MonkeyBrain;2611443]Oh dear... we've all been there...
unfortunately I don't have any photos from the wiring however I can describe what you should expect (from memory).
  1. Joying provides adaptor from their head unit to standard ISO connector (consisting of 2 8-pins connectors)
  2. this needs to be connected to an interface (Jaguar XK8/ XKR (2000-2005) steering wheel control interface (STANDARD AUDIO) 12 pin - InCarTec)
    1. this will provide help connecting with the car 12-pin
    2. it also adapts to steering wheel controls
    3. it comes with instructions to connect a few lose wires
  3. you'll be left with a few wires to connect (i.e. GPS antenna, microphone, reverse camera)
  4. from there everything should fit and work (apart from the antenna which no longer extend on my car)

let me know if it helps!
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So the incartec adapter, per the comments prior, is almost entirely surplus to requirements. Because joying head units are programmable, they can interpret the SWC signals from the steering wheel without an adapter module or patch lead. The 12 pin interface lead does eliminate the need to butcher the harness behind the dash though. I have the incartech module in mine but I will reiterate that it has been determined to be surplus to requirements IF using a joying head unit, because of the way you may controls on that. If using a more traditional head unit, you need the SWC adapter module to turn those signals into something "standard". SWC controls are just a series of switches attached to resistors which change the resistance in the circuit, joying head unit sees the different resistances as keypresses, so in the joying setup all you do is hold down the button you want to program, and then select what you want it to control from a list of options on screen. I can take a little video for you if you like. I need to remap one anyway. Its a 10 second job.

Get the loose wire patch lead, NOT the 3.5mm jack one, because you'll just have to cut the jack off for loose wires.

In my install, I used an aftermarket amp but the amp bypass lead is still nice to avoid the need to cut any harness in the trunk, although you are unlikely to ever use them again, you can retain the option to go back to stock if desired. In the end I replaced all the speakers and the head unit and the amp too and retained nothing of the original system except the SWC on the steering wheel. I ran my microphone for calls into the OEM microphone position in the roof console, inbetween the drive and passenger occupancy sensors. FYI, if you power on the car with the occupancy sensors disconnected or displaced, youll throw an airbag warning light, but thats easy enough to reset with an icarsoft scantool or similar device.

I used the 9 inch joying head unit with a volume knob, because I do like a knob, but everything else about the joying install is the same. Kinda wish id gone for an even bigger one actually, but that 8.1 inch screen definitely matches the width of the vents more than any other on the market.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2023 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Throwback
So the incartec adapter, per the comments prior, is almost entirely surplus to requirements. Because joying head units are programmable, they can interpret the SWC signals from the steering wheel without an adapter module or patch lead. The 12 pin interface lead does eliminate the need to butcher the harness behind the dash though. I have the incartech module in mine but I will reiterate that it has been determined to be surplus to requirements IF using a joying head unit, because of the way you may controls on that. If using a more traditional head unit, you need the SWC adapter module to turn those signals into something "standard". SWC controls are just a series of switches attached to resistors which change the resistance in the circuit, joying head unit sees the different resistances as keypresses, so in the joying setup all you do is hold down the button you want to program, and then select what you want it to control from a list of options on screen. I can take a little video for you if you like. I need to remap one anyway. Its a 10 second job.
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l installed a 7" android (not a joying) in the traditional location and that also does not require a specific steering wheel interface. Same procedure you mention. I think it is a standard android head unit feature.
 
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Old May 13, 2023 | 12:37 PM
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So, I'm the newest member of the Joying Luck Club. Installed the 10.25" Joying widescreen, along with wiring up a backup camera. I printed Monkeybrains blanking plate, and wrapped it with some leather. I originally put in a dual USB port, but it didn't fit quite right and put pressure on the stereo, causing problems. I may modify the ashtray, and mount it in there. I wound up getting a small analog clock and installing that on the blanking plate. The leather doesn't quite match, so I'll probably re-do it at some point. Also, the built in amp on the Joying unit leaves much to be desired, so I may install an external amp in the trunk at some point.


 

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Old May 13, 2023 | 04:11 PM
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Here's a picture of when I had a USB port instead of the clock. It's also painted, which I did before I had the idea to get some leather remnants.

The screen has the old UI for the unit. I got an older unit on the Joying site for a steal. The hardware is exactly the same, it just had the old firmware. It took 5 minutes to install the new firmware, and saved $100. The Joying customer service is suprisingly decent, they sent me the file immediately when I asked about upgrading.



 
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Old Aug 23, 2023 | 09:12 AM
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I have connected everything but I get no sound I connect the old radio, everything works again there is a black audio cable which provides the sound but I have no idea what to do now I am desperate can you please help me
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Old Jun 2, 2024 | 09:57 AM
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New 2002 XKR owner here ... this appeared to be the best thread on the topic. Was googling around to see what's out there as far as options .. dropin/custom/etc. and found this interesting image. Does anyone here have any info or history on this? Is this real or photoshop? If real .. it appears that custom cut work has been done on the center dash panel with a bezel. If the entire climate control can be relocated to this position that looks "factory" then why not/maybe a modern android unit? Replacement panels are easily available via ebay or various online custom sources. Getting a spare to work up a custom cut/mod with a conservative factory appearance bezel like this has been in my head for a few weeks now .... am I missing something .. I'm a new owner so still much to learn but based on this image it seems quite possible to put in an android screen of moderate size in this space instead of the climate controls?

 
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Old Jun 2, 2024 | 01:13 PM
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Those are some cool ideas, thank you for sharing. I am kind of unsure if i should change it or not. I have all original car so while i would love to have something better, still not sure i should break the "all original" badge.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2024 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Joliette
Those are some cool ideas, thank you for sharing. I am kind of unsure if i should change it or not. I have all original car so while i would love to have something better, still not sure i should break the "all original" badge.
I agree with you. I have a most-original 2003 XKR. PO did some sound system upgrades, including speakers and amps, and wired the AUX port and a USB plug in the center console. I've replaced the NAV screen back to gauges with the Real Gauges option, and listen to CDs around town. On longer trips, I can plug my phone in to those and get turn-by-turn navigation from my phone to the sound system. The center ash tray had been damaged when they installed a satellite radio head in the ash tray, so I buried that, and put a piece of plexiglass painted on the backside with gloss black paint, and covered the ash tray. Gives me a flat smooth surface to mount a suction mount for the phone so that it's at my fingertips, and out of the hot Florida sun while driving.

I keep an old cell phone in the car as well, so that if the CD unit were to die en route, I can plug that in and still get traffic reports and music into the sound system.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2024 | 08:11 PM
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I have a new to me XK8 with the original GPS. I work at Garmin so I am not using that old thing. I am looking to do something without destroying the existing wood trim. I'd like it to remain as stock looking as possible. Curious if anyone has tried going through the existing wiring to update what the screen shows vs. installing something new.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2024 | 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by KC XK8
I have a new to me XK8 with the original GPS. I work at Garmin so I am not using that old thing. I am looking to do something without destroying the existing wood trim. I'd like it to remain as stock looking as possible. Curious if anyone has tried going through the existing wiring to update what the screen shows vs. installing something new.
The OEM screen has RGB inputs, so if you really want to use it you need something with matching RGB outputs or a converter such as the long dead PAC VCI-X.

Far simpler though is replace the OEM sat nav with a Garmin Drivesmart 55, which can be made to look practically OEM.


 
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Old Jun 14, 2024 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by dibbit
The OEM screen has RGB inputs, so if you really want to use it you need something with matching RGB outputs or a converter such as the long dead PAC VCI-X.

Far simpler though is replace the OEM sat nav with a Garmin Drivesmart 55, which can be made to look practically OEM.

Thanks. I work at Garmin so I should be able to get a Drivesmart 55. I think there are some videos on how to do this. I need to look for those.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2024 | 07:00 PM
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Silly question. There are many touchscreen units with swivel heads and an arm which comes out of the single din. The screen cannot be mounted on its own away from the single din box.

Is there enough room behind the nav screen to put an entire single din unit with some sort of mounting box behind the dash? The arm of the screen would then pop out where the old Nav screen was.

I don’t think that space is deep enough, but I’m asking to those who have pulled out the old nav and played around back there.

New jag owner. Very excited to bring the audio up to speed.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2024 | 02:19 AM
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No. The space behind the OEM sat nav is far too shallow for a single din.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2024 | 08:33 AM
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Thanks for the quick reply! Wishful thinking.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2025 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Luke-S
Hi, this is similar to what I did to mine a couple of years ago but I kept the Jaguar head unit.



kept the screen close to the wood then used black foam around the edges.

Great unit to use for navigation.
Hi Luke,
I'm looking to do something very similar. Can you share some details on how the unit is attached and perhaps some more photos? I've been looking at the carplay receiver that amazon sells for under 150 CAD and are the perfect size. However they do come with a dash cam attached , which may interfere with a neat install...
Thanks!
 
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