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Old 08-06-2012, 05:11 AM
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Default Transmission oil change just done

Changed the oil at 85K miles.
A couple of points that may help.
The pan bolts were the small size Torx.
15 of the b*gg*rs would not turn at the sort of torque that really risked stripping the Torx.
However a small cold chisel and a tap with a lump hammer started them all easily - so don't risk it - if they don't undo easily use the 'American Screwdriver'
Second I used a temperature sensitive sticker on the pan 25° - 42° range.
It cost €1.50 and gave a good clear indication as the temp rose.
I've still got 9 of these left if anyone wants them.

Finally the oil that came out looked much the same as the oil that went back but I've lost the 3rd gear bark and the changes seem slicker
 
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Hey Steve, nice one and some good points thanks for sharing.

Barking and cats don't go together so glad you got that all sorted
 
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'American Screwdriver'

Is that with Vodka?
 
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Old 08-06-2012, 07:17 AM
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Is that with Vodka?
Always!
I got the phrase from my father who was an engineer at Rolls Royce Aero engines.
The tool has served me well over the years!
 
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Steve,

Noting only one use of the personal pronoun in your post in regard to the application of the temperature sensitive sticker, I'm forced to inquire whether you actually did this change yourself or stood to one side in admiration as the local artisan performed his latest miracle?

Graham
 
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Old 08-06-2012, 07:39 AM
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Graham,
It was a joint effort - he let me use the lift and I was going to do it all but he couldn't keep his hands of the Jagwar so a joint effort.
Having a Jagwar makes me a great expert on sporty motors of course so I had to spend an hour sorting out overheating problems in his rally car.
 
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Did you stick with Lifeguard 6, or go with another ATF?

Did you remove the old electrical sleeve and install a new one?
 
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I got a kit from this chap
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which uses Shell ATF M-1375.4
I bought a sleeve from him but when I came to look it had already been changed.
 
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Steve how do you know that the sleeve had been replaced already?
 
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Rick
I wish you hadn't asked !
It looked new and all around it was very clean while the rest was pretty grimy so err umm we sort of assumed it had been done.
Well it had hadn't it?
 
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Well you have a new one handy if it starts to leak so that's a plus. ;-)
 
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I don't want to ask but will I need to drop the pan again to change it??
 
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I don't want to ask but will I need to drop the pan again to change it??

Heres the answer YOU don't want to hear.


Yes!
 
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And was it a 2 minute job I should have done anyway ?
Go on, unmake my day, I was feeling quite pleased with myself.
 
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Don't worry Steve, It'll be fine.
 
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That's more like it. I'll try pressing the Thanks button repeatedly.
 
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Steve

Thanks for the info. My Jag dealer found, on my last visit, that I had a very slight leak around the tranny, and I assume it was the sleeve. I plan to have the tranny oil changed next spring by my indy garage. The info about using the temp sensitive tape and the tranny kit info was nice to know. One of my Jag club members, also named Steve, changed his a couple of weeks ago without any problems. He has a lift in his garage, so It went well for him. Watching Rev Sam's video doing this job without a lift, is a job I would not want to attempt.

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Bill,
+1 on that.
At well over 65 I wasn't going to grovel around underneath.
The penalties for shearing off a bolt are awful and this way we could really get a grip on things.
It took 1 hour and 5.5 Litres of fluid.
The amount dribbling out really reduced once the box got to 35°C - I reckon there's a bit of hype about the precise temp but the tape was brilliant.
 
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[QUOTE=steveinfrance;558307] tap with a lump hammer started them all easily - so don't risk it - if they don't undo easily use the 'American Screwdriver'

In the Midlands we always used to refer to it as "The Brumagem Screwdriver"

Whatever it's called it never fails.
 
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Originally Posted by steveinfrance
Bill,
+1 on that.
At well over 65 I wasn't going to grovel around underneath.
The penalties for shearing off a bolt are awful and this way we could really get a grip on things.
It took 1 hour and 5.5 Litres of fluid.
The amount dribbling out really reduced once the box got to 35°C - I reckon there's a bit of hype about the precise temp but the tape was brilliant.
Steve

In our younger days, I am sure we would have done this. I am in my 70's now and am starting to slow down JUST a little.

Bill N
 


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