Ok will do. I think the truth just came out they told me when they first put it in they had the fly wheel *** backwards and it didnt start then they said they tried clearing the computers memory. I wonder if they corrupted the ecu?

 

This is a really stupid question, but they have made sure the body to engine earths are connected and in good condition?

Both o2 sensors are showing up on the codes, it is amost like all the electrical sensors on the car have no earth feed or something.

I had this on my Ford Ranger and it turned out the main earth cable in the harness was damaged.

Cheers,
Rich

 

Actually it is a very good question.

 

Sorry I may sound silly but I have no idea what an earth connector is. Please inform me. I will get them to check it. I thought the same thing. I dont believe they are qualified to work on jaguars but the guy persuaded me that they knew a lot and the mechanic sounded like he knew what he was talking about but actions speak louder than words. Please let me know where all the earth connectors are. Thanks guys I really want my car back when the chain started rattling I parked it because I knew what was going on and I figured if I could save myself some money id do the chain myself and that was a bad idea. I literally havent had my car in 6 months. Been riding the gsxr everywhere and when it rains the ram air system on the bike hates it. appreciate all the advice and patience. Do you mean the grounds?

 

A bad ground will deffinitely create hell.

I agree with whitexkr, I've done a few engine swaps on these cars and you can easily damage the pins on that main connector behind the throttle body.

I really doubt you need to change the entire engine harness, just review what they altered and be sure the wires are soldered and not crimped together.

Also, did you check the wire colors and connector types on the engines when they were both on the floor?

Some sensors may be different between 01-02 even through the main pigtail plugs in the back.

Good luck.

 

I forgot to ask but what exactly did they do to the flywheel?

Your mechanic may not be as competent as he thinks he is, no offence just a lot of guys try to assume more than they know especially in that field.

 

Yes I know. Im sure this probably hurt his ego. But no I did not no the sensors were different. So do you know exactly which ones changed? Is it still possible to get it back in perfect running condition? Yes they told me they put the flywheel in 180 degrees off. No they did not solder the wires to the pedal position sensor they crimped them together with a wire connector. Thats probably why my obd scanner said low voltage input pedal position sensor. No I did not check the wires when they were both on the floor. I was told by him it was fine that they were the same engine and it would not affect anything. Im really sorry I cannot provide all of the information. I went up there only a couple of times and have limited mechanic knowledge. Especially when it comes to an engine swap. Thank you all so much for the valuable information. I will light a fire under the owners *** because it shouldn't take two months to swap an engine.

 

I'm sorry I'm not aware of any specific sensors that are different on these cars, I always keep the same years when doing quick swaps and I've never had any problems.
I learned the hard way many other cars, sometimes it is very stupid. Just because it is the same engine does not mean everything will match up perfectly.

I don't think installing the flywheel 180 off and clearing he computer memory would cause all of this, but I've seem some strange stuff on cars before.
I'm guessing that by clearing the memory they mean holding the plus and negative cables of the battery together for 30 seconds. In which case that shouldn't harm anything.

First thing to do is check the main connector behind the throttle body and all of the other connectors around that one, there are 5 i think.
Put a dab of dielectric grease on the connector pins, this is just to guarantee a good connection.

Also for that main connector be sure that the female end of the connector where the pins go in did not get pushed back. That will cause a faulty connection this happened to me before on a ford truck.

Next make sure you have a good ground to the body and the battery, if they did not put the ground to the body you can install one easily. MAKE them do it! If there is no ground to the body they really dropped the ball on you.

If you still have the old engine you should really go through it and compare everything with what is in the car now.

Before you even consider changing the ecu you have to be sure your wiring is good.

I have had strange problems with having too small of a battery installed on these jags.
Have your battery tested.

I wish I had more to suggest. WhiteXKR is an excellent technician about anything concerning wiring on these cars, any advice he gives you is gold.

 

Thanks for the reply I just went up there and I informed the owner. He said the throttle body connection was soldered. I told him to check all of the grounds. He acted like he was upset then went into a rant about nissan trucks and how they were the same way and that this was the last "european" car he would work on. I told him I need it back soon and that you had no issues swapping motors into these cars. Hopefully they will look at it. Theyve also been leaving it outside and the chrome 20s are starting to pit im so pissed. This shop is really starting to **** me off. This isnt a good area in jacksonville and someone could ****** those rims right off my car or furthermore break into it because its a convertible. I hope for the best. Like I said hes already been paid over 4 grand for this job and hes just letting it sit because he has other jobs. Its a joke if you say you can do it then do the job right. And no they didn't jist unhook the battery they hooked it up to a machine and "cleared" the computers memory. I will report back when I hear something. You guys are awesome. Best forum ive ever been a member of. Thanks
Joel

 

Joel, I really do sympathise with you on this...I would be so ****** off aswell.

Although I can't help you with any advise mechanically over here in the UK we have lots of civil law that protects consumers in regard to work being carried out like this and frankly reading through your thread I would put the whole thing in writing to the dealer outlining the initial work he was commissioned for and the faults that now exist...along with a timescale for them being fixed.

New faults that were not there originally are down to him.

A sure way into trouble is to just continue and not document or make anything official.

I'm not of course aware of your relationship with the dealer personal or professional so it may not be a route you want to take but at the end of the day if nothing gets resolved or it involves a lot of additional expense it may be the best way.

I do wish you the best of luck sorting it out though because it must be a real nightmare.

rgds Esh

 

FYI- you cant put the flywheel on 180 degrees out unless you remove the locating pin. Backwards, I suppose.

I also cannot see how a flywheel (FLEX PLATE) would be put on backwards... It is obvious one side has marks where the bolts go, and the other has a circle where the crank side is.

I would not look at the ECU at this point- my first point of order would be to recheck all of their connections, including the soldered ones. Actually, everything they did is in question if they, in fact, put the fricken flex plate on wrong.

 

The car is in the wrong hands and is not going to get fixed..that's pretty clear. Your choice is to give it to someone who can fix it and get it diagnosed by them or sell it as-is. Find the cars value in good condition and then decide if spending more is worth it to you.

 

Sounds like you're dealing with a dumb *** redneck. I can not stand those morons.

Jacksonville is overflowing with them.

If he is not going to fix your car then you need to get it out of there, check with an attorney and file a small claims suit against him.
I know that in brevard county florida there are laws in place to protect clients from shady repair shops.

It will be a huge pain in the *** to go to court but it may be the only way to have your car fixed or at least get damages out of him so you can have a competent mechanic repair you car.

There must be a jaguar specialist in jacksonville other than the dealership.

 

Don't suppose you have an attorney friend you could get to call this owner? Sounds like he's really screwing you over.

 

Jdub

It's pretty obvious that the guy is just messing with you now and he probably never fix your car to your satisfaction.

You don't need a lawyer or even go to court at least right now to deal with him. All you need to do is contact your State Attorney General's office Division of Consumer Protection. File a complaint and see if they can help. Some times just a letter from the Attorney General will get the ball rolling.

 

^ That is very good to know.
I had no idea the state would be that helpful.

 

I've used their service here in Nebraska a couple of times. Luckily I live in Lincoln so can visit the office personally. They can some times help with a problem like yours. They don't take any legal action unless they would find something illegal going on. What they will usually do, after getting your side of the story, is send a letter to the business about the problem you are having with them and let the business explain what their side is and if they have plans to take care of it. Many times that's all it takes since most businesses don't really want the State Attorney General looking at them for any reason.

 

Well i went up there today and the car is being towed to jaguar/land rover Monday. Hopefully they will sort this out. Thanks for all the help and advice. I will update when I hear something. Hopefully I get my cat back alive and well soon.

 

Please do report back as soon as you hear- it will help others in the future diagnose.

 

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