Sell some stuff on ebay and use the proceeds to buy the liner

Cracking job btw Matt can't wait to receive mine

 

XKRacer - it's on the way to you now!

Matt - that looks great! Super job! One question - do you think those 3 "tabs" are necessary? I refer to those "half moon" little cut-outs. Regarding your point #4, as I indicate in the included instructions - the smooth side faces out and the textured closed-cell side goes toward the underhood. I did have little stickers indicating that I made the liner and it had my cell phone number and website, guess I need to order some more!

You must be proud of your assistants! I have 3 myself! Yep, all girls and around the same age as yours. They're 11, 10, and 5 going on 16.

Heaven help me.

Speaking of heaven, Reverend Sam - I'm here to help, you figure out a way and I'll get it to you!

 

Gonzo, no the 'moons' aren't revealing anything worth leaving open. They're like rivets that have been ground down to the surface. You could eliminate them from the template if you wish. Also, the outer 'wings' could be rounded off too, the square edge looks odd compared to the rest of the curved outline.

Is there any way to 'spot fix' a couple pockets that have revealed themselves after driving a few days. Without cutting or pulling it apart, is there any adhesive that I can inject thru a hypo needle or something similar? I don't want to show any large puncture wounds, but the material is really elastic and could be disguised quite well. I may end up opening up a hole with something like a small finish nail and stick the head of my super glue bottle into it. Any other ideas?

 

Hi Matt - thanks for the confirmation, from here on out I'll leave those off.

Regarding your question, I haven't come across that yet but your solution seems good, if you can locate a hypo needle and inject some adhesive there, let it tack up and then press down again, that should work. If you cut a slit to expose a big enough section that would work too but I'm concerned about the slit showing once you put it back together. No one would know about the needle hole but you.

 

Sent you a PM Gonzo, half moons should probably stay in the template. For aesthetic reasons only.

 

I tried something different, not sure if that will last though, but I glued the new one to the original liner, rather then take the hood off. Am sure I will get some rubs over time, but I don't mind that, here is the picture:


Thanks Gonzo!

 

Matt - thanks for the PM, I shot you one back.

AVOS - Looks good, although I don't recommend doing so. You will definitely get some contact, let me know how it holds up for you! It does look good though! Hopefully the stock liner doesn't dry out or "sponge-up" the needed 3M #80 spray adhesive!

 

Personally I think Avos will run into a few rubbing issues as the whole point was to remove the sagging OE item and replace it with something tighter fitting.

But each to there own, I got to admit it is an all or nothing thing but if it works, then it has to be an 'all' situation.

 

I'm late to the party here but had a couple of questions. First, is the original OEM liner glued in or is it retained via a bunch of those plastic rivets. Second, will whatever glue you are using to install the new liner stand up over time or will it deteriorate and end up coming loose due to the engine compartment heat.

Thanks,

Doug

 

@Gonzo, XKRacer
I am sure it will rub as mentioned, the reason why I wanted the new liner was that mine was damaged (looked awfull) in the first place. I don't mind some little rubbing here and there.

Have used 2 bottles of 3m-80, so hope it will not dry out ;-). The good thing is that I can take if of without any issues (with the original liner), just hope it will stick.

@Doug,
On my car it is fitted with rivets, which is why I asked gonzo to send me one with he original holes, so fitting would be easy.

 

Doug, those rivets are just a plastic screw rivet, you know...partial rivet, then screw it in to tighten. I had to break several to get them out. No other adhesive or such.

 

Then why manufacture a replacement hood liner that needs to be glued? I might be interested in a liner where you could merely remove the rivets, remove the original liner, and then install the new liner (with logo) using the same type of rivets.

Doug

 

The reason you change the liner is because you might of spent (like me) a few thousand $$$ having your engine detailed just to have the liner make it look like crap because it rubs the nice new paint off your charge coolers.

Makes perfect sense to me

 

I understand the desire to replace the liner with a thinner one that will not rub, or one with a logo just because. But isn't it possible to produce a thinner one that could be installed using the same rivets that hold the original and not have to go through the hassle of removing the hood, gluing in a new liner, and then re-installing the hood? It just seems that a thinner but similar liner to what we already have could be more easily installed.

Doug

 

It would have to be perfectly moulded to the shape of the hood........Jaguar could not be arsed to do it and I think the after market people will have the same train of thought (I can speak from experience). The costs will be too high, what Gonzo is producing is bang on, simple, thinner, better, it is just a bit more permanent.
Once fitted why would you need to remove it? If for arguments sake the hood is damaged and needs to be replaced then yes you will need to replace the liner too, I can live with that, it is not a huge cost.

 

Off topic a bit but I just re-read your quote and you spent a few thousand dollars in engine detailing!?!?! How is that possible and why?

Doug

 

It is my show car, I have spent alot of time polishing, painting, replacing every external bolt with stainless steel. I have much larger radiators, polished strut caps, polished strut braces, aluminium header tanks (yes I have 2 one is for the supercharger system). The engine itself has been enamel painted, full silicone hoses with polished Mikalor clamps, aluminium coil pack covers.

I have a XKR in the shop now the customer is spending over $3000 on having just the engine bay detailed, it very easy to spend $000's having this sort of work done just to have it ruined by a badly designed hood liner.
Badly designed might be a bit harsh, cheap might be a better analogy


That lot like I said is just the engine bay you will have to wait and see what I have done to the exterior and interior

 

Have you posted photos to show any of this work? Is this a car that actually gets driven or just admired?

Doug

 

Quite a chunk of change to spend on a total engine detail and then to top it off with a liner of the same original material that will deteriorate again. A thinner one will deteriorate quicker. The ones I fabricate are 1/4 inch, and if folks recall, are made of aircraft firewall material that won't fall apart like the original. The catch is that the material I use is totally flat and not stiff or premolded, so there is some work that does need to be done. However the end result is quite pleasing and is an alternative to the stock insulation and its' shortcomings.

Very simple conclusion, if one doesn't want to bother with taking off the hood to remove their old one and put mine on, then people can just pass it by.

 

I have never really gotten all that excited about hood liners except for some I saw pictures of that were stainless steel/reflective to show off the engine and engine bay. Of course I suspect that people who had those on their car preferred showing their cars versus actually driving them.

Doug