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Old Nov 1, 2017 | 04:23 PM
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Default ZF gearbox faults, root causes & Troubleshooting

With ref to Jim's request for stickies I think

that this should be included:

Everything about your ZF 6HP26, 6HP19, 6HP28 transmission issues | BMW LOGIC7
 
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Old Nov 2, 2017 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by meirion1
With ref to Jim's request for stickies I think

that this should be included:

Everything about your ZF 6HP26, 6HP19, 6HP28 transmission issues | BMW LOGIC7
Agreed and should be a sticky in the X150 forum as well. Thanks for posting.

Interestingly, there is a link for testing out the MOST BUS network too which would also benefit X150 owners.

This should also be added if it isn't already.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2017 | 07:30 PM
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Thought I could add a comment here on what I suffered

04 xj8 n/a

(She) cat threw the abs light

10 miles later , cat went into transmission gear faults and basically wouldn't shift out of second gear . Felt incredibly a bit like the trans was toast clanks and squeals and all kinda ****. So I replaced the driver rear abs sensor with a rock auto part and boom , all was perfect again


transmission didn't like what the abs sensor wasn't saying and acted up for it
 
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Old Nov 7, 2017 | 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by meirion1
With ref to Jim's request for stickies I think

that this should be included:

Everything about your ZF 6HP26, 6HP19, 6HP28 transmission issues | BMW LOGIC7
spread the wealth guy's .
this should definitely be in the s type stickies as well !!!

thanks
 
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Old Nov 9, 2017 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by slownlo
Thought I could add a comment here on what I suffered

04 xj8 n/a

(She) cat threw the abs light

10 miles later , cat went into transmission gear faults and basically wouldn't shift out of second gear . Felt incredibly a bit like the trans was toast clanks and squeals and all kinda ****. So I replaced the driver rear abs sensor with a rock auto part and boom , all was perfect again


transmission didn't like what the abs sensor wasn't saying and acted up for it
Last week a similar series of events happened to my 2008 XJR. Trip #1 ABS fault & 20 miles home. Trip #2 ck engine light on start, after 2nd shopping stop 2nd, neutral, repeat, repeat, gearbox fault and 10 miles home in 2nd. Car has been at dealer for 3 1/2 days. Haven't heard anything.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2017 | 06:53 AM
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I did get dreaded transmission codes as well as body module ones one day. Threw about 6 codes in total as I recall. Turned out to be a broken wire in the top of the left front shock on my 01' xkr.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2018 | 06:35 AM
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As discussed in the thread - "What's the mileage on your ZF 6HP gearbox ???" - posted by Supersprint - here is a link to the Jaguar adaption procedure (TSB JTB00145) - which can be printed off and shown to your Jaguar dealer.

http://www.justanswer.com/uploads/cr...00145NAS11.pdf

I will be looking into having this done on my XK8 in order to help eliminate the occasional harsh gear change problem. I'll let you know how I get on.
 

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Old Feb 19, 2018 | 08:47 AM
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I have heard about this adaptation procedure. I am still getting an occasional squawk when the car downshifts from 6 to 5 and sometimes accompanied by a 5/6 gear ratio error message despite twice doing a fluid filter change. Only happens during a gentle downshift from 6 to 5. Not during a hard one.
Think this might help with that issue?
No harsh shifting issues.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2018 | 09:35 AM
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What ATF did you utilize when you did your pan drop and fluid refresh?
 
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Old Feb 19, 2018 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Pantera928
I have heard about this adaptation procedure. I am still getting an occasional squawk when the car downshifts from 6 to 5 and sometimes accompanied by a 5/6 gear ratio error message despite twice doing a fluid filter change. Only happens during a gentle downshift from 6 to 5. Not during a hard one.
Think this might help with that issue?
No harsh shifting issues.
Sorry but I have no idea....this adaption procedure is all new to me and seems to be addressing the harsh shift issue...so I don't know if it will help your transmission.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2018 | 06:27 PM
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Hey Jon89
I did it once with the Ford Mercon that they used in their ZF cars and did it again with Lifeguard 6.
40 degrees C and a slow drain out of the filler plug when I closed it up
 
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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 06:16 PM
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ZF gear box acts weird. Backing, sounds like
i'm hitting something.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2018 | 12:31 PM
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So the gearbox fried on my 1997 XK8, mechanic told me it needed to be replaced. I didn't have the cash for a rebuilt one so I bought a used one and had it professionally installed.

It worked well to start but I noticed when I shifted from reverse to drive without fully stopping, I got the dreaded transmission fault. Turning the car off and then on again returned it to normal the first time, but the second time I had to let the car sit for a few days before it decided to magically work again. It took about three times for me to realize the bad shift was what triggered it so I was careful when shifting from then on out.

However, yesterday it faulted twice: once when I was driving normally in city traffic, and then again when stopped at idle in a parking lot. I'm worried that this used transmission that has been in for 9 months with less than 1000 miles is going to go up again.

So, any ideas? I'll add that I also had the car in to diagnose some strange whines and they suggested it was likely coming from the transmission.

HELP! I love my car but it's frustrating to constantly worry it's going to die on me.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2018 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by humbug2
Last week a similar series of events happened to my 2008 XJR. Trip #1 ABS fault & 20 miles home. Trip #2 ck engine light on start, after 2nd shopping stop 2nd, neutral, repeat, repeat, gearbox fault and 10 miles home in 2nd. Car has been at dealer for 3 1/2 days. Haven't heard anything.
what wasthe end result?
 
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Old Sep 17, 2018 | 04:22 PM
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Glad I joined this forum. I'm new to the car, a 99 XK8. I'm working with a shop and they have it down to 5 codes (from about 15). The most serious they say are the check engine light, a phantom misfire code and an ABS fail code.

The trans still won't engage except in a high gear. No noises, just no power to the wheels. The engine seems to work fine. They are first concentrating on the misfire code.

The dealer had said one of the wheel speed senors was broken and the module was not reading properly.

Could the ABS situation may be more related to this issue than the misfire code? Any thoughts would be appreciated.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2018 | 04:11 PM
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Hi ArtI,

Originally Posted by ArtI
The dealer had said one of the wheel speed senors was broken and the module was not reading properly.
Could the ABS situation may be more related to this issue than the misfire code? Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Yes

Suggest you post this as a new thread in the 'Normal threads' rather than here in the stickies, or ask one of our tireless mods to move it for you.

Good luck,
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Old May 20, 2019 | 09:23 PM
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A few of us have found that if your tranny's going into limp mode along with some sporadic ABS a/o Cruise Control warnings, check your rear wheel bearings before you do anything else. The wheels will actually start to wiggle around long before you hear any sounds of the bearings failing, and that wiggling will throw all sorts of warnings through the ABS sensors. Many folks have replaced transmissions when the only problem was worn bearings.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2019 | 10:03 AM
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Andyzeg
Did you ever do this adaptation procedure? Did it help anything?
The link to the procedure you posted does not seem to work any more. Do you have a copy of it?
Thanks
 
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Originally Posted by Pantera928
Andyzeg
Did you ever do this adaptation procedure? Did it help anything?
The link to the procedure you posted does not seem to work any more. Do you have a copy of it?
Thanks
Here's a working copy -
 
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Old Dec 28, 2019 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by andyzeg
As discussed in the thread - "What's the mileage on your ZF 6HP gearbox ???" - posted by Supersprint - here is a link to the Jaguar adaption procedure (TSB JTB00145) - which can be printed off and shown to your Jaguar dealer.

http://www.justanswer.com/uploads/cr...00145NAS11.pdf

I will be looking into having this done on my XK8 in order to help eliminate the occasional harsh gear change problem. I'll let you know how I get on.
hello andyzeg...and all,

i have just purchased a 2005 xkr with 75k miles. i bought it knowing it has a coolant issue of some kind (i can smell it however no indication of overheat nor able to see where the leak/ seep maybe) and a transmission issue (it drives fine).
Last jag i had (40 years ago) was a '62 e-type coupe...LUV'D that car....jag fan ever since ! I have luvd the xk8/ xkr's since '97 because they remind me soooo much of the most luv'd car i ever had...i ramble...

ANDY ! this post is 10 months or so old and will not open for me...would you be able to post it again?... I am trying to learn all possible before finding the right shop to open my ZF6HP26.... I thank you ALL for being active and helpful to my new community of enthusiasts; a tremendous help to me already !
 
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