Just completed wheel spacer application in rear
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Just completed wheel spacer application in rear
For a cheap mod that will make your car look 100% better get four of these 10mm spacers for your car...
10mm Fit Jaguar F Type s Type XF XFR XJ XK 5x108mm 63 4 Billet Wheel Spacers | eBay
Along with these lug nuts in black or silver to suit...
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
And the car will sit like a Ferrari with the wheels where they are supposed to be.
See for yourself. She squats far beefier now, looking like she can benchpress a ton. I know a lot of people are just terrified of wheel spacers. Know these are hub centric with the correct bore for Jag. With the ET style lugs with the thread extensions, with oem Jag wheels, I can safely assure you that theres no wobble, no rubbing, no safety issues. I am not familiar enough with our car to know the difference yet but physics tell us that we will have better handling and balance with the wider stance.
Downside now is I have to be 10mm more careful when parallel parking.
GO DUBS!!!!!
10mm Fit Jaguar F Type s Type XF XFR XJ XK 5x108mm 63 4 Billet Wheel Spacers | eBay
Along with these lug nuts in black or silver to suit...
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
And the car will sit like a Ferrari with the wheels where they are supposed to be.
See for yourself. She squats far beefier now, looking like she can benchpress a ton. I know a lot of people are just terrified of wheel spacers. Know these are hub centric with the correct bore for Jag. With the ET style lugs with the thread extensions, with oem Jag wheels, I can safely assure you that theres no wobble, no rubbing, no safety issues. I am not familiar enough with our car to know the difference yet but physics tell us that we will have better handling and balance with the wider stance.
Downside now is I have to be 10mm more careful when parallel parking.
GO DUBS!!!!!
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Foosh acquired these in a group purchase and was kind enough to pass them along to me (at substantial discount) when he decided not to deploy them.
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Looks good Polaris, but, here's the but.....
I see you've added flat plain spacers, that would be a major cause for concern for me, especially on such a high powered vehicle. Looks like you've basically removed te hub which means that the wheel sit on the bolts and ar not hubcentric leading to wobbly wheels and serious danger, I'd look into that if I were you.
Unhingd has shown the correct safe way to do this with his adapters / spacers, which are the exact same as the ones I used on my vehicle.
I got mine from H&R
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Jim
I see you've added flat plain spacers, that would be a major cause for concern for me, especially on such a high powered vehicle. Looks like you've basically removed te hub which means that the wheel sit on the bolts and ar not hubcentric leading to wobbly wheels and serious danger, I'd look into that if I were you.
Unhingd has shown the correct safe way to do this with his adapters / spacers, which are the exact same as the ones I used on my vehicle.
I got mine from H&R
Best
Jim
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Looks good Polaris, but, here's the but.....
I see you've added flat plain spacers, that would be a major cause for concern for me, especially on such a high powered vehicle. Looks like you've basically removed te hub which means that the wheel sit on the bolts and ar not hubcentric leading to wobbly wheels and serious danger, I'd look into that if I were you.
Unhingd has shown the correct safe way to do this with his adapters / spacers, which are the exact same as the ones I used on my vehicle.
I got mine from H&R
Best
Jim
I see you've added flat plain spacers, that would be a major cause for concern for me, especially on such a high powered vehicle. Looks like you've basically removed te hub which means that the wheel sit on the bolts and ar not hubcentric leading to wobbly wheels and serious danger, I'd look into that if I were you.
Unhingd has shown the correct safe way to do this with his adapters / spacers, which are the exact same as the ones I used on my vehicle.
I got mine from H&R
Best
Jim
MAKE SURE THE LUGS TURN OVER 5 TIMES ON THE STUD WITH THE WHEELS YOU ARE USING.
USE ET OR EXTENDED THREAD LUG NUTS TO GET YOU THE EXTRA THREADING YOU LOSE WITH THE ADAPTER.
MAKE SURE THE LUG THREAD PASS THROUGH THE WHEEL HOLE OPENING SO YOU CAN GET THE 5+ TURNS.
DON'T ATTEMPT THIS WITH SPACERS OVER 10MM. ANYTHING OVER USE AN ADAPTER INSTEAD.
In my eye, 10mm is the perfect width. The fender flare edge lines up with the tire like Ferrari. Without seeing in person, I'm not convinced the wider the better but then again 5-10 more mm is only 3/16-3/8". All would look great but the method I used is by far the less complicated way to do this safely.
Not sure what you mean "I look like I removed my hub and are sitting on bolts and not hub centric".
On a different note...
Did you guys have to shave the oem studs down to not extend past the spacer? If not what happened to the length of the original stud?
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Your spacers are flat, there is no hubcentric part to them
On mine and unhingd's you can see the raised hub in the centre, probably around 10 mm or so, yes?
This is where the wheels "LOCATE" onto when fitting
On the reverse of this adapter / spacer there is a section bored out, this matches your existing hub and allows it to also "LOCATE" exactly onto the hub centering the wheel.
Yours do not do this, you have fitted the wheel by use of the wheel bolts only, even If they are longer, it makes no difference.
Your wheels are therefore NOT centred on the hub and are held in place only by the wheel bolts, this is a dangerous position to be in and can and often does cause wheel wobble and or other issues
But hey, if you know better than all well n good, I'm only trying to help
Good luck
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It doesn't I'm afraid.....there can be on 10mm spacers, not enough meat to play with
You are playing with fire, your safety and others Polaris, just trying to look out for you
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The amount of shaving required (if any) depends on the wheel. Generally the wheel spokes where the stud now poke through are left hollow with the casting mould, allowing the studs to extend beyond the face of the adapter. For the Gyrodynes that I have, I had to grind off 2.5mm off the studs, still leaving 3mm of un-threaded stud exposed.
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No offence Polaris, but this is the issue right here as you ay in your quote above......"not sure what you mean"
Your spacers are flat, there is no hubcentric part to them
On mine and unhingd's you can see the raised hub in the centre, probably around 10 mm or so, yes?
This is where the wheels "LOCATE" onto when fitting
On the reverse of this adapter / spacer there is a section bored out, this matches your existing hub and allows it to also "LOCATE" exactly onto the hub centering the wheel.
Yours do not do this, you have fitted the wheel by use of the wheel bolts only, even If they are longer, it makes no difference.
Your wheels are therefore NOT centred on the hub and are held in place only by the wheel bolts, this is a dangerous position to be in and can and often does cause wheel wobble and or other issues
But hey, if you know better than all well n good, I'm only trying to help
Good luck
Jim
Your spacers are flat, there is no hubcentric part to them
On mine and unhingd's you can see the raised hub in the centre, probably around 10 mm or so, yes?
This is where the wheels "LOCATE" onto when fitting
On the reverse of this adapter / spacer there is a section bored out, this matches your existing hub and allows it to also "LOCATE" exactly onto the hub centering the wheel.
Yours do not do this, you have fitted the wheel by use of the wheel bolts only, even If they are longer, it makes no difference.
Your wheels are therefore NOT centred on the hub and are held in place only by the wheel bolts, this is a dangerous position to be in and can and often does cause wheel wobble and or other issues
But hey, if you know better than all well n good, I'm only trying to help
Good luck
Jim
I'm not offended, just want to put the information out there in a responsible fashion. Don't want you to be offended either in that theres a knee-jerk adversity to something I spent a lot of time getting it right.
I do agree that the adapter is the better way to go but this is an option for those not wanting such an aggressive stance.
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Hope this helps!
The ones you have ARE NOT HUBCENTRIC
Hubcentric Explained
Wheel spacers are used for a number of reasons, from form to function. For cosmetic reasons, you may want to fit wheels with an offset that isn't designed for your car or simply to help bring the wheel face out to be more in line with the arches. For the function side, wheel spacers are used for increasing wheel clearance for big brake callipers or simply to improve the handling by increasing the track of the car.
Hubcentric wheel spacers are designed to make sure the weight of the car is carried by the hub and not by the studs or bolts. They are machined perfectly on the rear of the wheel spacer to match the locating ring on the hub with the same size locating ring on the front of the spacer. This means that the wheels is truly central to the cars hub, meaning no movement and no vibration through the wheels. A hubcentric wheel spacer also result in far less stress on your bolts or studs.
As you can see in the cross-section diagram of a hubcentric wheel spacer above, the locating ring fits into the space on the wheel exactly as the hub's locating ring would. This means that the weight of the car is still resting on the hub rather than the wheel studs, meaning no vibrations from the wheels.
However, with a non-hubcentric wheel spacer, the weight of the car is no longer on the locating ring and is now on the studs, this will lead to vibrations from the wheels.
The ones you have ARE NOT HUBCENTRIC
Hubcentric Explained
Wheel spacers are used for a number of reasons, from form to function. For cosmetic reasons, you may want to fit wheels with an offset that isn't designed for your car or simply to help bring the wheel face out to be more in line with the arches. For the function side, wheel spacers are used for increasing wheel clearance for big brake callipers or simply to improve the handling by increasing the track of the car.
Hubcentric wheel spacers are designed to make sure the weight of the car is carried by the hub and not by the studs or bolts. They are machined perfectly on the rear of the wheel spacer to match the locating ring on the hub with the same size locating ring on the front of the spacer. This means that the wheels is truly central to the cars hub, meaning no movement and no vibration through the wheels. A hubcentric wheel spacer also result in far less stress on your bolts or studs.
As you can see in the cross-section diagram of a hubcentric wheel spacer above, the locating ring fits into the space on the wheel exactly as the hub's locating ring would. This means that the weight of the car is still resting on the hub rather than the wheel studs, meaning no vibrations from the wheels.
However, with a non-hubcentric wheel spacer, the weight of the car is no longer on the locating ring and is now on the studs, this will lead to vibrations from the wheels.
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Nice one, just trying to help buddy
They do say that they are hubcentric in the advert, but then also say that they are a flat spacer........they can't be both, they're either one or the other.
I would advise removing them and replacing with true hubcentric variations as soon as possible for safety reasons, but of course, it's your call
If you're looking for hubcentric try H&R they're very good at what they do, although I doubt you'll be able to get 10mm hubcentrics, probably around 15mm-20mm will be the smallest you can get
Cheers
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They do say that they are hubcentric in the advert, but then also say that they are a flat spacer........they can't be both, they're either one or the other.
I would advise removing them and replacing with true hubcentric variations as soon as possible for safety reasons, but of course, it's your call
If you're looking for hubcentric try H&R they're very good at what they do, although I doubt you'll be able to get 10mm hubcentrics, probably around 15mm-20mm will be the smallest you can get
Cheers
Jim
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