Which is a more rare car?

 

Probably the Super V8 Portfolio.

For the 2009 model year, only 140 were produced.

There were two color options for 2009 -- astral gold and celestial black. Out of the 140, one could estimate that only about 70 in gold were produced and 70 in the celestial black.

 

the Super V8 is more rare

 

Dumb question: What are/is the difference(s) between an XJR and Super V-8..??

 

The big difference is that the super v8 is long wheel base and the super v8 has a nicer interior. The Xjr is a xj8 with the supercharged engine, big breaks, stiffer suspension.

 

^^this is correct.

the XJR might have sportier front seats as well....super V8 will have the normal seats.

other than that........same exact car except extra rear legroom and all the upgraded bits from the VDP, they shoulda just called it XJR VDP

 

carzaddict is correct,

The Super V8 Portfolio is essentially a Vanden Plas + the Supercharged engine & R-Performance Exhaust System from the XJR.

On top of this, the Super 8 Portfolio has extra's such as --

> Special machined aluminum side vents
> Rear Seat DVD Headrest Monitors with dual center control built into back seat armrest
> Alpine DVD changer in trunk
> Different alloy wheels with badging

 

X350 Super V8 Portfolio vs. X358 XJR?

I don't know the sales figures for X358 XJR's in North America, but in principle the X350 Super V8 Portfolio is the rarer car if we look at numbers on a global scale.

Apart from the list above, the X350 Super V8 Portfolio also got a few features not available in other cars;

400W Dolby Surround Sound system with 15 speakers
Conker coloured leather
Alcantara headlining
Polished alloy shifter surround
Black Walnut Veneer (but this could be specified on other cars for $$$$)
Cherry Black paint (Winter Gold also an option, but most were done in black)
Huge polished exhaust finishers

Plus the previously mentioned goodies;

Machined alloy power vents in the front wings
Polished 20" Callisto wheels

The other options (full electric split rear seat, rear screens, DVD, etc) were available in the standard Super V8's.

265x X350 Super V8 Portfolio's produced worldwide, with a split like this;

145x to USA
10x to Canada
40x to Japan
10x to Switzerland
8x to Australia
Rest to UK, Russia, Middle East & EU

The last X350 that was produced at the Browns Lane plant was also the last X350 Super V8 Portfolio, and now resides in the Jaguar Daimler Heratige Trust collection.

Now the X358 XJR was produced in much greater numbers, the only toys I can think of that the X358 XJR has, that the X350 SV8 Portfolio didn't get are the cooled front seats, and DAB radio. Apart from that the spec of the X350 SV8 Portfolio is miles ahead of the X358 XJR.

There was also an X358 Super V8 Portfolio, but that wasn't much different to the regular Super V8, apart from some different power vents, and Navy Blue leather. It missed out on all the flash stuff from the X350...but as previously mentioned, it's a very rare car too.

So which one is rarer?

I'd say the X358 Super V8 Portfolio is rarer, partly because it wasn't promoted much, also it's very hard to spot the difference from the regular X358 Super V8.

The X358 XJR might be a rarer sight in USA, but in UK and Europe they are plentiful.

The X350 Super V8 Portfolio is much more desireable, in my eyes at least. It looks the business with those power vents & polished wheels, and the interior is miles ahead of anything else, except for the lack of cooled front seats...

There are some other models over here that didn't make it to the US, which are considerably rarer;

X350 XJR Portfolio (black XJR with the power vents, wheels & exhaust)
X350 TDVi Portfolio (as above but fitted with the 2.7L Diesel V6)
X350 Daimler Super Eight (fully loaded Super V8 but with Daimler branding)
X358 Daimler Super Eight (fully loaded Super V8 but with Daimler branding)

The last four cars in the list would actually be the rarest of the X350/358's but you didn't get them where you are...

Unless you start looking at colour combinations for rarity, because there are some very rare interior colours, some of which have never been seen outside of the catalog.

 

Cambo351,

I see you have Cranberry leather interior -- don't think I've seen that but once on an ebay listing about a year ago so am betting that is also very rare.

Regarding the above production breakdown numbers, curious where we can obtain the info from. I've always wanted to slice and dice Jag production numbers but never sure where to find it. Is there a special website // book // catalog you can reference that has this up to at least the 2009MY?

 

I got those numbers from a very helpful chap at the Jaguar Daimler Heritage Trust, usually they don't give out production numbers for "newer" models but i was trying to locate a RHD X350 Super V8 Portfolio to buy so they helped me out. Only a handful were sold in the UK & therefore impossible to find. So i went for the XJR with Cranberry, also a rarity.

 

Thanks for all your info! Do you buy chance have a number on the x358 Xjr and how many came to America?

 

It took me 6 months to find my Portfolio. I was also trying to decide between that and an X358 " something" as personally I like the more aggressive front end on the X358s. After a year of ownership I'm content I made the right decision.

I have still never seen another Portfolio on the road and doubt I ever will.

My car has 3 things that for me would improve it...... I know, you have to be pretty picky to want more, but anyway... I really like the contrasting piping in the Super V8s. I don't have that. I would also have preferred a heated wooden wheel, but instead they have unheated leather. The satellite radio "factory option" is a complete mess, although that is not strictly a Portfolio only issue.

For me the most interesting part of the car is the paint. I wasn't sure what to expect before I'd seen one in the flesh. I thought it was going to be a very dark browny red, but the reality is the car looks completely black most of the time, until you put it in direct sunlight, then you see these amazing bright red flakes in the paint. It maybe doesn't sound nice but I love it.

To be honest sometimes I think the car looks too "showy" because it has a lot of shiny bits on it, but at least all the shiny bits were put there by Jaguar, and didn't come from Pep boys :-)

In the end I guess it's all about personal taste...

To Cambos point about the Portfolios not being promoted much, I think I read somewhere that all cars were sold before they were built, so they never went into showrooms. My local large Jaguar main agent service manager told me they never got any, and that he personally has never seen one.

As of this morning there are 3 for sale on Auto trader. 2 Black Cherry, one Winter Gold. All around 50k miles. All less than 40k.

 

I meant the X358 Portfolio wasn't promoted much, the X350 on the other hand was very well promoted

 

Ah. It's too early, I'm going back to bed :-)

 

The only real promotion that the X358 Super V8 Portfolio had was at the 2008 Geneva auto show.

The car was made in extremely limited numbers (140).

 

I've seen Scott's XJ a couple of times and I confirm the cherryish paint looks gorgeous. Have not seen same color on a Jag yet.

 

I love both Portfolio colors, and the interior color complements the "Winter Gold" very nicely. Ah, the choices we make. I elected, after driving a couple of Super V8's, and considering my options very carefully, to go with a comparatively nondescript XJR with perhaps the most nondescript color combination of all. It reeks of stealth. That seems to suit me best.

 

I always wondered how different the handling would be between the SWB XJR and the LWB Super V8's. Does anyone have any comments on this aspect between the two types?

 

Hello

I am the proud owner of a 2006 Jaguar Super V8 LWB, I read your thread with interest, I purchased my car direct from Jaguar when it had only covered 3500 miles, I understand it had been driven by a senior Jaguar company director before I purchased it, I am wondering just how many of this model were manufactured in total and how many for the year 2006.

The car is right hand drive and fully loaded with all options, wooden heated steering wheel, DVD screens, picnic tables, 20 inch Seapang Alloys.

Are these cars now starting to appreciate in value?

Thanks in advance for any replies

 

3500 or 35000 Miles ?