Here's a link to an upcoming auction not too far from me

Jim Hands Auction | Sat., June 7/14 @ 10 am

where you can see the above mentioned car being offered.

What would cause this car to be 'unregisterable' in Canada? With it being left hand drive and the speedo in MPH, I'm presuming it came from the US.

 

Possible Salvage title, the dash panels don't match could be from airbag deployment.

 

I noted the dash panel issue also, certainly somebody did a **** poor job of matching the panels. You might be right about the salvage title.

I've read through the Transport Canada regulations and cannot see any other single point that would stop this car from becoming 'registerable' here, again presuming it was originally built to US spec. If the car was built to any other spec, it would not have been allowed in the country, in the first place. Customs would have turned it back at the port of entry.

How strange. Sounds like the owner didn't do his homework prior to buying it.

 

If he imported it as a parts car, that means it can never be registered.

 

It might go for dirt cheap, since people expect Jags to have issues, and the Unreg added on top. It might even go for less than the cost of the wheels.

 

Good thoughts, thanks.

I've sent the auctioneer an email asking for more details hopefully he'll have a straight explanation.

 

I beleive previous flood damage cars are unregisterable as well.

 

Mike,

I've added this photo from the auctioneer's website because the issue of a vehicle being unregisterable in Canada is likely to be of interest to forum members long after the auction details have disappeared.



It'll be interesting to read the auctioneer's explanation.

Graham

 

Thanks Graham.

I've not heard back yet from the auctioneer which is ominous in itself, but will follow up. Most likely I'll go to the auction whatever the response, there's some other toys that might need buying and at minimum will get the VIN of the car for future reference.

I can honestly say I've never seen a case of someone importing an unregisterable car before.

 

Type Approval is one possibility.

We have had members import LHD XK8's from the US to mainland Europe only to find (especially in France), US Type Approval is not acceptable and European CoF (Certificate of Conformity) must be obtained. Jaguar have been helpful in providing this for individual vehicles.

The German authorities are more helpful (one German member has recently imported a UK registered XJS and re-registered it in Germany) but it cost is almost as much as the value of the vehicle.

I understand from comments in other threads that the Canadian motor vehicle authorities can be even more pedantic than the French!

Graham

 

Yes and no, but at least the regulations are very clear and well advertised. Basically the car, if under 15 years old, must have been originally manufactured for either the Canadian or US market and be clearly identified as such. No exceptions. Ever. Stop whining, the answer is no.

That's terribly restrictive, but them's the rules.

A car that does not meet the above criteria cannot even be imported, never mind be licensed for operation. I saw this in action in the mid 90s where a rather wealthy family immigrating here from the middle east had brought their fleet of Mercedes with them. The customs officer refused to release the shipping containers from the docks and gave them the choice of sending the cars back to point of origin or signing a piece of paper that would authorize the local destruction of the vehicles. Ouch.

If a car is being imported to Canada from the US, as I suspect is the case with the car above given the speedo in MPH, it must be converted to meet our safety standards. This might be as simple as enabling the DRLs or as complex as replacing the entire front and rear bumper assemblies as happened on Corvettes a few years ago.

Ahhh bureaucracy!

 

They must have really changed the rules since I immigrated. In my day we were each allowed to bring a vehicle of any sort that we had owned in England provided we did not attempt to sell them within a certain period of arriving, forget what that period was. I was going to bring my custom built Volvo B16 with me, had all the shipping papers made out and booked but at the last minute changed my mind. Have always wished since that I had bought it.

 

Looks like you guessed it!

Here's what I got from the auction house:

"The car has been deemed a wright-off (sic) from jaguar North America. It has been totally restored 400miles on engine new batterie etc. we have paper work for it. If someone wants the task of possibly re-deeming it road worthy it is on there time. It is sold as is with no safety. Hope this helps."

How sad. I'll go to the auction anyway and attempt to get the VIN and see who buys it.

 

That's too bad, it's a nice looking Car. I bet it goes for less than $5000. Probably end up as a parts car.

 

I'm back from the auction and have a long and sad story for this poor car.

The VIN is SAJDA42C762A48304

According to the seller's representative, it was declared a write off after an accident in Florida and was awarded a salvage title. The extent of damage was severe enough to require replacement of the complete engine assembly. Repairs were done somewhere in the US but not to the highest of standards as a quick inspection today revealed poor quality paint on the front fenders, missing and broken inner fenders and obvious patchwork under the hood.

The car made it's way from Fl to Vermont/NY at some point after the accident, then into Canada several years ago where it has just sat unwanted and unloved.

The interior was in poor to moderate condition exhibiting extensive wear and tear for a car of supposedly low mileage.

Mice had made their home under the hood for an extended period and done their usual damage.

As mentioned above, the car is unregisterable in Canada due to it's 'branded' status, but also because Jaguar NA has washed their hands of the car when it comes to making manditory mods to convert the car from US to Canadian specs. A double kiss of death.

The auctioneer made all of the above very clear to the crowd.mBidding was fast and furious and what I thought might go for maybe 4-5K as a parts car sold for $11,500 . I attempted to speak to the buyer wondering what his intentions might be, but he disappeared in a bit of a hurry, being there for just the one item.

Out of curiosity I looked up the VIN after getting home, finding these refernces amongst others

Salvage 2006 maroon Jaguar Xk8 with VIN SAJDA42C762A48304 on auction by Thursday, June 03, 2010 | AutoBidMaster

The car has deteriorated considerably since these pics were taken.

This document was a surprise:

http://liquidationbank.com/wp-conten...2/Jag-Docs.pdf

as it does show an attempt to acquire Canadian registration in 2011.

How strange............

 

LOL!!! Sold for $11k?????

Shocked.

 

My guess is the car is already in a shipping container halfway across the ocean bound for ??? where paperwork issues and bureaucracy can be taken care of with a little baksish.

 

I've gone to a few auctions in my time. Sometimes people get caught up in the moment and pay way too much for a vehicle. This sounds like the case here.

 

I agree with the earlier post, its in a shipping container on its way to another country. I had have sold a couple cars to people out of the country and they always say, title only matters at the port...... once in there country (Russia, Haiti and South America) it didn't matter how it was titled.