hi.

The F Pace 2.0 D 180Cv RWD has a camshaft timing chain, correct (like bmw and mercedes etc...)? Does it need to be changed? if yes, when ?

tks

 

So far there has been nothing from Jaguar about replacing the Ingenium timing chain. The timing chain drive to the camshafts is located at the rear of the engine, so it would be a very big job to replace it, probably requiring removal of the engine. I believe there were some problems on early engines which required chain replacement, (under warranty), but there have been no threads on this subject that I've seen. Of course engines with cam belts need those replacing quite frequently compared to chains. When I had a Rover 75 V6 it had three cambelts, one mainbelt from crankshaft to inlet cams, and one at each end of the two cylinder heads to drive the exhaust cams. Not a cheap job to replace !!

 

I KNOW! i had to replace entire distribution KIT on my BMW 120d ( N47 Stupid engine...)

Thanks for the info.

 

I realize this thread is a bity dusty but thought I'd respond with my recent experience. My 2017 2.0 F-Pace went in for a 63K mile service where they told me that "the camshaft had moved inside the car, which had stretched the timing chain - meaning it needs to be replaced" I'm guessing she meant that it was out of alignment. Anyway, quoted cost was £2100 + VAT; luckily it is still inside the extended warranty period so it should be covered.

I found my way here because I'm trying to find out if this is a common complaint with the F-Pace. It seems like a pretty dire fault to just kind of "happen" 1.5yrs into ownership.

 

After all this years i came back to my own topic to say: YES! F-pace 2.0d (mine has 108.000km) before 2019 have timing chain problems...

I started to ear some "tok-tok" when i started the car in cold state....after some months (after oil change , bla bla..) the sound became more prolonged ....like 20 seconds...After lots of search, I found that this problem was real and jaguar correct the issue in ingenium engine after 2019.


At jaguars oficial workshop the price for changing is 6000€ + vat! insane! So i will try diferent premium workshops that can make a good intervention.

My question is (because i cant find it...) what is the brand of camshaft timing chain that we can say its original for this engines? Because i want to make sure that the problem wont come back!


Thanks!

 

Having chain failures on ingenium diesel engines is a notorious problem from the design fault and because the chains were of an inferior material that has been updated to a stronger chain by JLR.
There are two chains five guides and a dampened idler that have been superseded to new stronger parts sometime around beginning 2021 model year. It's a flip of a coin if your timing chains fail. mine failed at 20,000 miles. If you get even a slight rattle at start up it's time to change the chains immediately. If you wait it will be time to change the engine completely.

 

By the way oil changes should be limited to between 7,500miles and 10,000 miles max. This engine really can't take any more than that without issues in the future.

 

Unfortunately that is not true. The 2019 change was in engine production which went into the later 2020 model year vehicles, so you're not actually safe until the beginning of 2021 model year.
There's a big difference between manufacture date, production date, and model year date. Proof? My late 2019 model year timing chains failed at 20k miles and did not have updated internal parts.

 

5000 miles oil change never have to change the chain

 

Interesting theory. So how come my car had 5000 mile oil changes and the chains failed at 20,000 miles?
Could it have anything to do with JLR stating that the chains were made of an interior material and could fail?

 

My 2018 fpace sport just suffered catastrophic engine failure to the tune of 28,000 dollars ( new engine) . Timing chain stretched .. No warning, no ticking , followed an oil change schedule that matched my husbands q4 Audi ...haven't had the car ( or A car ,) since aug as it's been elevated to level 4 at JLR . We only bought the car last year from the dealership,( certified) with a one year warranty that ended it may . It's crushing on every level