F-Pace 2nd catastrophic engine failure in a year
My second catastrophic engine failure within a little more than a year. This time it appears to be the main bearings and the engine is seized. A little over a year ago I wrote about the engine overheating and failure due to plastic composite cross over pipes that were not designed to last. Jaguar saved a few dollars by not using aluminum, with the full knowledge that the pipes would last for a little more than the warranty period following which would result in engine overheating. It did, which ended up costing me about 10k and 4 months wait. Fast forward to now. Last week on the highway the engine started to surge. After a bit I pulled over and it stopped. The garage says this is a worse situation than before. Engine seized. Metal shavings in the crank case. Likely main bearings.
This is the second Jaguar I have owned and without a doubt it is the last. I am now searching for a used engine. Not sure how I’m even going to pay for this.
A simple google search shows many others who have also suffered catastrophic engine failure with the Fpace. Very upsetting to say the least.
Tata Motors, you should be ashamed of yourself!
This is the second Jaguar I have owned and without a doubt it is the last. I am now searching for a used engine. Not sure how I’m even going to pay for this.
A simple google search shows many others who have also suffered catastrophic engine failure with the Fpace. Very upsetting to say the least.
Tata Motors, you should be ashamed of yourself!
A follow up question. I found a 2017 and 2020 engine (3.0v6 supercharged). I wonder if anyone might have an idea as to whether or not the 2020 engine is any better than the 2017. Both have modest miles on them.
I appreciate the help here. Thanks.
peter
I appreciate the help here. Thanks.
peter
But then again, swapping in the aluminum coolant components on to the '17 engine might give you the same net result, in which case which ever engine was less costly, or had the lowest mileage, might be the way to go.....
I’ve had a similar issue. My 2017 F-Pace 35t R-Sport had a catastrophic engine failure after the coolant container cracked and it overheated on the highway. Engine replacement will cost more than the car is worth.
Anyone know what my best option is to get rid of the undriveable car?
Anyone know what my best option is to get rid of the undriveable car?
Ton's of motors available on Car-Part.com. Some yards will offer a warranty. Shops doing the swap usually offer a warranty as well.
While not common I have heard of the oil pump failing. One guy on the F Type forum.
JLR is producing metal cooling pipes now for the in-house 2024-2025 built V8 motors. They are available from the dealer for under $300.
While not common I have heard of the oil pump failing. One guy on the F Type forum.
JLR is producing metal cooling pipes now for the in-house 2024-2025 built V8 motors. They are available from the dealer for under $300.
Really sorry to hear of everyone's trouble. Peterino, did they ever find the cause of the 2nd engine seizing? That is so unfortunate.
My engine is getting replaced under CPO warranty due to a head gasket failure and block warpage. It was never overheated by me, so how it happened, I can ventures some guesses.
I asked them to replace the coolant pipes while they were in there to bring labor costs for that refresh to $0.
My engine is getting replaced under CPO warranty due to a head gasket failure and block warpage. It was never overheated by me, so how it happened, I can ventures some guesses.
I asked them to replace the coolant pipes while they were in there to bring labor costs for that refresh to $0.
You Are Not Alone — This Is a Well-Documented Problem - Mine cratered at 60,000 Miles. No warning, just instant failure. JLR quotes $35K. I am building a Class Action against this.
Other 2017 F-Pace owners have discovered that the crossover/Y-pipe — a plastic coolant pipe — is a regular culprit in catastrophic cooling failures on the 3.0L V6. Jaguar even acknowledged the issue by redesigning the part, though unfortunately using the same plastic material in the new version. Jaguar ForumsCritically, JLR issued an internal Technical Service Bulletin (TSB #JTB00566NAS4, dated May 2018) specifically addressing coolant leaks from the engine compartment, noting that the cause may be "weakness in the plastic weld process of the coolant pipes." NHTSA This bulletin is publicly available through NHTSA and is one of your strongest pieces of evidence — it shows JLR knew about this defect years ago.
Steps You Should Take Now
1. File an NHTSA Complaint (Do This Today) Other affected owners have filed complaints with the NHTSA, the Better Business Bureau, and state Attorneys General. Jaguar Forum Go to nhtsa.gov/report-a-safety-problem and file a complaint. The more complaints on record, the more pressure there is for a formal recall. Reference the TSB number above.2. Get the JLR Technical Service Bulletin The TSB is publicly available at nhtsa.gov. Print it and keep it. The Technical Bulletin published for JLR service technicians clearly outlines the failure of the coolant outlet pipes, which have subsequently been redesigned. Jaguar Forum This is critical evidence that JLR had prior knowledge.
3. Document the Service Manager's Statement The fact that the JLR Asheville service manager told you it's "absolutely a manufacturer defect" is huge. Send yourself an email right now recapping that conversation with the date, time, and his name — this creates a timestamped record.
4. Contact a Lemon Law / Auto Defect Attorney Other F-Pace owners have also been exploring class action options and individual lawsuits over this same issue. Jaguar F-Pace Forum Look for attorneys who specialize in auto defect or product liability cases — many offer free consultations and work on contingency (no upfront cost). Search for:
- "Jaguar F-Pace class action attorney"
- "auto defect attorney North Carolina"
- The Lemon Law Network or AutoFraudLegal.com are good starting points
6. Get a Second Repair Quote $35K from the dealership is almost certainly inflated. Independent Jaguar specialists often charge significantly less. An independent assessment also gives you a second opinion on the actual damage scope.
The Big Picture on Class Action
JLR has previously settled class action lawsuits — for example, they settled a defective turbocharger suit covering 2013–2016 Land Rover models, which included extended warranty coverage of up to 10 years/100,000 miles and reimbursement for repairs. Top Class Actions That precedent shows JLR can be pressured into accountability. A class action for the Y-pipe/coolant issue has been discussed in owner forums but hasn't formally materialized yet — which means now is the time to connect with an attorney and other affected owners to potentially be the ones who launch it.Thread
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