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2021 spy shots... "Full refresh"?

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Old Nov 21, 2019 | 12:28 AM
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https://www.autoevolution.com/news/2...oy-139146.html
 
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Old Nov 21, 2019 | 01:46 AM
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Is this really different enough to sell more? The new Vette is sold out for the year if everyone actually takes delivery. The average price is reported to be in the $80's.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2019 | 02:09 AM
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Is this really different enough to sell more? The new Vette is sold out for the year if everyone actually takes delivery. The average price is reported to be in the $80's.
The new Vette has 495 HP and weighes 3600 lbs. Sounds kinda familiar. For that matter, 2008 GT-R owners might have deja vu too. It's also way down in performance at the same price point as the C7 Z06.

The bigger question is why Jag would source the least reliable engine maker in the world today? Are they trying to commit suicide?

I'm not sure what any manufacturer is doing, they seem disconnected from reality and are struggling to understand driving. The new Mustang comes to mind.

It's Carmageddon.

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Old Nov 21, 2019 | 08:50 AM
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It’s interesting to see how this will affect the price of the model years prior to it. For example you can see 2017 models going for more than 2018 models still.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2019 | 10:35 AM
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I'm glad I just got my P380 2020 model, I find these new headlights to be... well, generic and borderline ugly. I'm also interested in seeing how this will affect the price of pre-2021 models.

Also, on previous spy shots we saw a full grille at the front, but it's not there anymore on these?
 
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Old Nov 21, 2019 | 10:44 AM
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Really not caring for the single rectangular center exhaust.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2019 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by RacerX
The new Vette has 495 HP and weighes 3600 lbs. Sounds kinda familiar. For that matter, 2008 GT-R owners might have deja vu too. It's also way down in performance at the same price point as the C7 Z06.

The bigger question is why Jag would source the least reliable engine maker in the world today? Are they trying to commit suicide?

I'm not sure what any manufacturer is doing, they seem disconnected from reality and are struggling to understand driving. The new Mustang comes to mind.

It's Carmageddon.

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The next several years will be odd to watch from the perspective of people like us on the forums, enthusiasts, and gas powered vehicles. Lot of change will come based on federal guidelines, rather than demand, put in place for the impending future as product planning has been happening 5-10 years in advance for most of the major OEMs (at least in America).

I agree with you on the Mach 1 Mustang concept...the P702 will be much more capable and traditional meets future product.
 
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Old Nov 23, 2019 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MidLifeinTN
Really not caring for the single rectangular center exhaust.
Already exists. That's the 4 cylinder.
 
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Old Nov 23, 2019 | 07:26 PM
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To my eye the changes they keep making are taking the curves out of the body more and more. Don't much care for that. Sexy needs to stay sexy



the original!
 
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Old Nov 24, 2019 | 10:46 AM
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To my eye the changes they keep making are taking the curves out of the body more and more. Don't much care for that.
All to be expected given Ian’s departure from JLR. Aesthetically, in the course of time, the ‘14-‘17 models will be the most highly prized.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2019 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Mbourne
To my eye the changes they keep making are taking the curves out of the body more and more. Don't much care for that. Sexy needs to stay sexy


the original!
they basically want all Jaguars to look the same now. Same light language from the front and rear. It will remind us of a XE coupe from the front.

 
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Old Nov 24, 2019 | 07:50 PM
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change for the sake of change. it's not better.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2019 | 12:15 PM
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All to be expected given Ian’s departure from JLR. Aesthetically, in the course of time, the ‘14-‘17 models will be the most highly prized.
Not my broken '16 tho! 😂😁

I wonder if they'll end up with some overall savings? Weight reduction? What is the point of tinkering? It'll end up an Aston from the 80s.


 
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Old Nov 25, 2019 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Uncle Fishbits
Not my broken '16 tho! 😂😁

I wonder if they'll end up with some overall savings? Weight reduction? What is the point of tinkering? It'll end up an Aston from the 80s.

That Lagonda reminds me of the camel that was a horse designed by committee.
 
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