Does anyone have a recommendation for an alignment shop in Phoenix or surrounding areas?

TIA.

 

If you're looking for a JLR Dealer, you got Jaguar North Scottsdale and the newer dealer at Ray Rd and I-10 might be a good start.
7470 W Orchid Ln, Chandler, AZ

Otherwise, there are a dozen exotic car dealers/Hot Rod shops in Scottsdale that could help....And there's always Discount Tire, Big O Tire, etc.

BTW...Cars and Coffee is tomorrow morning as well at the "Scottsdale 101" shopping plaza. You'll surely be able to find recommendations there. I'll be there...Black SVR.

 

 

british auto is the worst place you can go. gregory nells is a buffoon! Jaguar dealer won't even sell parts to him. he talks a good game but he does not walk it. Just letting you know. There is a reason he keeps moving his shop every couple of years... a few descriptive words come to mind when i think of him, eccentric Moron

Discount tire does not do alignments but they referred me to Rory's Airpark AutoTek. 480-483-7535 14850 N. 83rd Place Building "C" Scottsdale, Ariz 85260. They are known for their alignment work and have full-service repairs too.
I have gone there several times took my wife's XJ8 they put it up on the rack 20 minutes later called me into the service area and said they could not do an alignment, they showed me why my tires were wearing badly, I needed new bushings on the right control arm. there was no charge that day. I order new purple bushing and had them installed. Went back to Rory's said I'm, ready to have my alignment done, they put it up on the rack and 20 minutes later said my car was done, the new bushing put the car back into perfect alignment gave me the papers with each tire (all four ) alignment numbers. showing specs and actual numbers the actuals were all green.
NO CHARGE !! we don't charge if you don't need an alignment, They said with a smile, I smiled too. :-) said thanks, I'll be back.

Tell them Discount tire on Indian Bend and 101 recommended you and they will give to the Discount tire price. saves 20 I think.

Happy New Year.
and Happy Motoring...

 

 

Rory's Airpark Autotek is a great reference. I stopped by yesterday to get an alignment, and after they had it on the machine and confirmed the alignment was up to OEM standards, they did further analysis to find a small bend in the inner side of the front wheel which is the cause for vibration in steering. They did not charge me anything for this since they did not change anything on alignment, though they spent a good 30 mins on the car to find the root cause.

Would definitely recommend these guys to anyone looking for an alignment. Interestingly, this business is right next to BritishautoAZ.

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wow that great, however i totally disagree with that. Why? Because in 22 years i have had exactly 3 cars i didnt need to touch with a wrench. But alot that are all in the green! I can tell you without a doubt that is not the way to work on cars because all in the green can still lead to mishandling and uneven premature tire wear. I have done countless threads and posts on alignments and got jaguar to change the front toe specs back in 2003 on stypes that were wiping out front tires inside in less than 10k miles.

 

 

 

 

But how does Brutal know what specs were used by Rory's alignment?? he doesn't !!
I believe he is off base saying what he said without any knowledge of the specs used for alignment, especially if he can't supply his specs he refers to! same goes for unhinged.

I know you both know much more than most and certainly me, but to make a bold and broad statement and not back up with actual specs he uses,
is at best negligent to all forum members .. IMHO
So what are Jaguar's adjustments???
Happy Motoring...

 

I'm happy to provide the target specs I am using , but unless you're running an H&R suspension with wheel faces 12 mm beyond OEM, the numbers won't be 100% relevant for you.

Front Left Right
Toe .03 .03
Camber -2.2 -1.9
Caster 7.4 7.4

Rear
Toe .05 .05
Camber: not adjustable but coming in at -2.4

 

it is NOT a specific set of specs other than I set toe to the inner most spec recommended BY JAGUAR loaded in alignment machines! And hopefully so did they. and then push out on inside of the front tires to see if THAT CAR/YOUR CAR likes that toe setting. if you do this you will find that the toe goes into the middle which is what it will do when driving. I have found that many shops/techs like to set in the middle on the alignment machine not taking into account that DRIVING ON THE ROAD affects the suspension by moving to toe out while driving! And causing more inner tire block tread wear. If you're in the middle on the machine many times you will be toed out driving and wearing the inner tread block more and then on the machine the response will always be "YOU'RE ALL IN THE GREEN YOU SHOULD BE GOOD. " And as I stated only 3 cars in 22 years I didn't have to touch with a wrench, but many in the green. So I would bet a months pay that chances are I WOULDN"T BE HAPPY, based on experience. Maybe they are. If set with toe in and then checked like MERCEDES recommends by using a pressor bar(I push out with my arms till the slack/play is taken out) you will then simulate what YOUR car will do on the road while driving. AND this covers virtually all cars and drivers wanted and needed compromises for alignment. Unlike the customer that just sought me out to align his Ftype track car. He said in understeers too much for him so after discussion I set it up with toe out almost to the red in front and toe in for the rear,. This will make the car want to rotate more going into (oversteer)a corner but not too much cause it needs to be stable in the middle. Too much and you'll have a drift car. Then gave him the printout and said for him to make notes at his track session in February and then I can adjust accordingly based on his feedback. That all being said I need to get back to work and make money cause I sure don't on here
EDIT; I realize you may not understand or maybe you do. Jaguar recommended specs as are almost every car and manufacturer recommended alignment specs are loaded in most every alignment machine out there. So I don't need to really provide anything except to say again that not adjusting anything ESPECIALLY after suspension repair is IMO flat out stupid. I don't know about others or the people/shop you went to. But I am pretty picky and "GOOD ENOUGH, CLOSE ENOUGH ETC" to me just doesn't cut it in many cases. And again if you follow Mercedes recommendations you will get a better alignment that is specific to YOUR car, Not the next one just like yours.

 

This past weekend I realized that my front tires had excessive inner wear as is being described in this thread. I bought my car CPO from Jaguar and they had put new rear tires on the car and done an alignment. It certainly appears that the alignment the dealership performed caused the inner wear problem described. Not that big a deal because I've gotten almost 20K miles out of the tires but they probably had another 5 to 7K more had this uneven wear issue not occurred.

Having read the thread above and having just purchased 4 new PS4S tires for my completely stock '16 S, I'm a bit unsure of where to go to get the car aligned properly. The dealership appears to have not done it correctly on the last go. Not knowing that much about the alignment process, could I take Brutal's recommendations above and give them to an alignment shop and expect them to perform the alignment properly?

Any advice would be appreciated, thanks.

 

If you specify this, yes it is a reasonable request.

 

Jag recommended toe is far too negative.

 

Indeed, the alignment shop new exactly what Brutal was talking about and set the alignment of my new PS4S's to that spec. In determining the pre-existing toe, camber and caster, they were at the Jaguar specifications except my rear driver's side wheel was out of range. Don't know what happened there, I don't hit too many pot holes and it would be odd that the front on that side was still dead on the alignment spec if I knocked the rear out by hitting a pothole.

There is definitely less road noise now (probably the PS4Ss) and just a little bit more oversteer (as predicted by Brutal) but it feels good and like an improvement in the steering.

This was great advice on the alignment. Thanks to all that contributed here!

 

For some reason the rear wheel is more likely to crack than the front when going over a pothole.