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Old Jul 31, 2022 | 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Borbor
I actually don’t blame them. The install on your intakes is pretty poor. The left arm (when looking from the drivers seat)is parallel to the brace infront but the right arm there is about 15 degrees on angle. No wonder that joint failed. Because of the angle it enters the sleeve , the ring clamp will never get a good seal and will eventually work itself off again.maybe a new sleeve with another extra inch of length may suffice. It looks like there is quite a big gap between the two ends of the intake pipes.
Agreed, the angle of the RHS pipe is all wrong and the only easy solution is to get a longer piece of silicone hose to replace the too short piece on the RHS.
Shouldn't cost a lot and a fairly easy DIY fix.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2022 | 05:57 AM
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My friend I was in the car business for 20 years, I am an Android Engineer now, less hectic. However, you purchased the car from the dealer and they sold you the warranty. In this situation they are responsible 100%, they are the professionals they have the retail licenses, bonds and profesional sales, finance and repair personal. I would just sue them in small claims.

The limit to the amount that a person can sue for in small claims in texas (I think that is where you said you lived)cases is $20,000

it costs very little to sue in small claims court, they are not allowed to use their high price attorneys, either a corporate officer or owner of the dealership etc must attend the hearing

Judges hate car dealerhips it is just a fact, generally they or another family member has been screwed by one so you will win probably and the dealerships knows this

They would rather just fix the problem, then start a fight with a judge, just do it, costs you little and can cost them a lot
 
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Old Jul 31, 2022 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by GeaBaldyVx
If anyone is still following this whole deal…. I got the car back today. Everything is pretty much as I left it except I am $400 lighter not including the $70 in gas they burned while they had it.

when I got back to the house I opened the hood and took a look to see if I could see what they heck they were talking about regarding the intake pipes. Well… I saw it…. And I am pretty sure I can fix it, which also means they could have as well.



You realize with that connection unsecured you are sucking unfiltered air directly into the engine intake/throttle body. I think you are also bypassing one of the MAF sensors.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2022 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Borbor
I actually don’t blame them. The install on your intakes is pretty poor. The left arm (when looking from the drivers seat)is parallel to the brace infront but the right arm there is about 15 degrees on angle.
This is 100% on mark. Now that the engine has been sitting overnight and it isn’t 100+ outside I can get a better look/feel. I can at least get the rubber sleeve over both sides. However you are right that it will eventually slide off again. Other than getting a longer section of tubing to overcome and well… it will look like trash but work until I can get to a shop that can pull the hood off to get a better angle and take that tubes off the super charger and see if it is bent, made incorrectly or just needed to be turned a little to be more even.


 
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Old Jul 31, 2022 | 08:32 AM
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I also agree that something is amiss but it should never have left the shop like that.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2022 | 08:50 AM
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Just a few comments about small claims court as I have some experience with this. In Texas as a matter of fact.
You need to understand some basic facts before you start filing law suits. Note that it is state dependent whether you or the other party can use lawyers or not.

Even if you win you have no way to collect your money. The court will not be issuing any kind of legal order other than recording in the public record that you have won the case. So there will be no enforcement of the results. If the other party does not pay you can't do anything to collect. The Police will not be involved as this is a civil and NOT a criminal matter. I know it is criminal to you and it was to me too!

With the virus situation there will be months long delays in even getting your case to trial. There could be additional delays if you or the other party want to drag it out further with requests for extensions. Plus you will be paying the court costs to get this going. As noted above these fee's aren't too expensive but it is on your dime. Earlier this year around February my local small claims court was placing new cases on the docket in August.

All and all I find small claims court to be worthless at getting any money back. Now what MIGHT work is just the threat of a law suit. So if you have a lawyer I would first be sending letters on his letter head to see if you can shake anything lose. Sometimes just the threat of legal action along with a real attorneys letter can do the trick.

But with what you have found I would just fix it and move on. I mean the first thing you need to define is exactly what and how much financially have you been harmed by this? If everything went your way how much money do you want back from the car dealer? Would that amount justify all the time/effort and money you will spend to collect this?
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Old Aug 2, 2022 | 07:27 PM
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So I managed ti go out and correct the issue rather simply. While it looks like the one section of intake leading to the supercharger is out of alignment it was actually an optical illusion. The pipe coming up from the airbox wasn’t in the right position and just kind of fell back into place where it was supposed to be once I loosened the clamp and slid the rubber junction back slightly. Everything realigned and clamped back in properly. Voila! MAF error gone, brake boost error gone, hesitation gone, random cutout at low RPM gone…

A) I feel like an idiot for taking it to the dealer and paying to have them look at it.

B) I won’t be back to that dealer as they used $80 in fuel to tell me they won’t do anything.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2022 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by clubairth1
Just a few comments about small claims court as I have some experience with this. In Texas as a matter of fact.
You need to understand some basic facts before you start filing law suits. Note that it is state dependent whether you or the other party can use lawyers or not.

Even if you win you have no way to collect your money. The court will not be issuing any kind of legal order other than recording in the public record that you have won the case. So there will be no enforcement of the results. If the other party does not pay you can't do anything to collect. The Police will not be involved as this is a civil and NOT a criminal matter. I know it is criminal to you and it was to me too!

With the virus situation there will be months long delays in even getting your case to trial. There could be additional delays if you or the other party want to drag it out further with requests for extensions. Plus you will be paying the court costs to get this going. As noted above these fee's aren't too expensive but it is on your dime. Earlier this year around February my local small claims court was placing new cases on the docket in August.

All and all I find small claims court to be worthless at getting any money back. Now what MIGHT work is just the threat of a law suit. So if you have a lawyer I would first be sending letters on his letter head to see if you can shake anything lose. Sometimes just the threat of legal action along with a real attorneys letter can do the trick.

But with what you have found I would just fix it and move on. I mean the first thing you need to define is exactly what and how much financially have you been harmed by this? If everything went your way how much money do you want back from the car dealer? Would that amount justify all the time/effort and money you will spend to collect this?
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It is incorrect to say that there are no mechanisms to enforce a judgment. Texas does allow for attachments of assets. I still remember many years ago, perhaps late 80's, when a guy in the Houston area got a default against UPS and they told him to pound sand. The judge signed the attachment order an UPS caved quickly when the fleet of wreckers appeared to tow away a number of (loaded) UPS vans.

We also had a suit against the State that we prevailed upon and the Comptroller did not want to sign the check. The check got signed very quickly once we got an Order which would have given us several vehicles from the Governor's fleet.

'rona-related backlogs are a concern, but most courts have been open for more than a year and are working on getting back to pre-scamdemic docket management in Texas...

As to the warranty itself, given that it was sold by the dealership, there are some performance requirements that enter the equation...they agreed to cover the vehicle as it was sold. At a bare minimum, they either need to step up OR they need to fully refund the cost of the warranty. It may not be the fault of the dealership for the failure to realize the car was modified, but they STILL sold a vehicle AND the warranty to cover it.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2022 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by mbelanger
...getting back to pre-scamdemic...
Please don't go down that slippery slope.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2022 | 04:13 PM
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Did you not look under the hood yourself before you took it to the garage??
 
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Old Aug 8, 2022 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Did you not look under the hood yourself before you took it to the garage??
I did but didn’t see the pipe like that. My guess is at that point it was on the lower side and the Dealer noticed it and futzed with it which made it easier to see.
 
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