Could be if there is a safety engine shutoff that is deployed based on inadequate oil level and the level is sloshing about just enough for an intermittent signal. I have a power generator that will act that way.

 

I have a question. Had JVIII not altered the ECU in any way (with the tune), but still had this same engine failure, would JLR have covered the replacement under warranty? Or would they have claimed "operator error" or misuse for not checking the oil level and continuing to drive the car with an insufficient amount of oil?

 

And as a follow-up question, what is the typical oil level when a new car leaves the factory? And, how much oil does a new engine typically use (burn) in the first ~5000 miles?

 

I would think they would attempt to deny a claim based on low oil, but they stand on shaky ground if the computer never registered a low pressure code to activate the CEL.


Oil level should be at the top line day 1 and certainly not more than 1/2 qt. consumption over the first 5000 miles.

 

Nobody can answer that as the supposed low oil level, starvation or even root cause of the failure was ever confirmed.

All speculation.

 

Me too. There's a big difference between a generator that holds 2qts of oil with one missing and a car engine that holds 8+ with one missing.

One sucks (air), the other doesn't.

 

For these engines to fail they need to be down quite a bit more than 1 qt. More like 2 or 3.

 

As long as you have the hood open go through the menus and at the reading screen press cancel twice on the cruise control side of the wheel, you’ll get a real time reading.

 

Found this in the diagrams:

 

This seems like an innovative feature, but where and when does this electronic wisardry actually display a reading or warning?

 

Well I knew I wasn’t the only with this pathetic situation. Facts: 4500 miles and this motor was done. Mods: Venturi intake, blower pulley, & Capristo cat-back exhaust. Big deal and entry level mods.This is the least modified car I own. The Collection in Coral Gables basically told me to get lost. With that said is anyone here dialed in yet with a Magnuson-Moss law or lemon law attorney before I have this piece of crap parted out? It was fun while it lasted and constant battery problems and zero oil warning problems and water pump problems. All in I’m out $170k. My Aston Martin Vanquish Volante is way more modified and never skips a beat after daily beatings. TeamDame on instagram

 

A bit more info would be appreciated. Did the car have a tune? From whom? How did the engine fail? Oil starvation?


Here's the right legal counsel for FL: Florida Lemon Law, Krohn & Moss, Ltd.

 

A couple of things.
- JLR are truly awful about taking responsibility for serious problems and will always try to blame the owner first. I have had several personal experiences with this. They will also blame any failure on any mod whether it was related in any way or not, I am a Land Rover owner and have a very heavily modified LR3. Many owners on the forum I participate in have had these problems.
- However here is no doubt at all that an engine failure with a tune is a likely to have any manufacturer deny a claim and with pretty good reason. I have never put a tune on any car either because it was under warranty and I didn’t want this to happen, or because I have wanted o keep the car for a long time and didn’t want to Shorten it’s life.

Basically if you choose to tune a car in warranty you Need to accept that you take this risk.

 

Pretty much gave all the info I can give. Obviously, the basic mods would warrant a tune. I checked the oil a lot while the car ran and level seemed fine then one day in traffic I could tell I just lost a bunch of cylinders. Limped Home then shipped it back to the dealership and I think they said I lost 5 but they cannot help...bla, bla, bla. Thanks for the lemon law contact but sure that will be a waste of time so I will most likely part this car out. Need carbon ceramic brakes or some sweet HRE rims or anything else?

 

Have you considered putting another engine in it? Find something like this... https://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars...ationFlag=true and it could be back on the road for under $20k. (Then you could either keep it or sell it, which has to be easier than a part-out.)

 

PM Sent!

 

Parting it is premature. Engine swap and then sell it.

 

Who's tune was it?

 

Dame, you joined in march, you've made 4 posts since then (2 on this thread) and then on this thread you say your engine has blown up with very little supporting information ie who did the tune.

 

What's the total count right now of blown engines? And of course, they will blame the tuner.