burnout advice
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burnout advice
after 4 years my rear Pirelli tyres still have some profile but the
rubber becomes pretty hard so traction gets worse even on hot summer days.
The V8 is spinning the rear tyres with such an ease that I decided
to grant a "smokey burnout" to myself .
Switched off traction control completely by pressing the button for
more than 3 seconds , got warning in the instrument cluster , floored
the pedal , rear tyres began to spin , car picks up some speed which
I tried to prevent by applying the break pedal with my left foot .
Up to a certain pressure this worked but the car still became faster.
Increasing the pedal pressure suddenly software kicks in followed by
a sudden close of the throttle. Same behaviour you see trying to drift
with traction control on.
Tried whole procedure several times but still the same result .
What I'm doing wrong ? Does my car stick in "trac dsc mode" ?
What´s the behaviour of your cars concerning "brake against throttle" ?
Any advice appreciated .
Regards
Ulrich
( V8S convertible RWD MY14 )
rubber becomes pretty hard so traction gets worse even on hot summer days.
The V8 is spinning the rear tyres with such an ease that I decided
to grant a "smokey burnout" to myself .
Switched off traction control completely by pressing the button for
more than 3 seconds , got warning in the instrument cluster , floored
the pedal , rear tyres began to spin , car picks up some speed which
I tried to prevent by applying the break pedal with my left foot .
Up to a certain pressure this worked but the car still became faster.
Increasing the pedal pressure suddenly software kicks in followed by
a sudden close of the throttle. Same behaviour you see trying to drift
with traction control on.
Tried whole procedure several times but still the same result .
What I'm doing wrong ? Does my car stick in "trac dsc mode" ?
What´s the behaviour of your cars concerning "brake against throttle" ?
Any advice appreciated .
Regards
Ulrich
( V8S convertible RWD MY14 )
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I often drive with the DCS completely off and I've never had any electronic interference to tire spin.....that said I have not tried powerbraking/doing a brake stand with the car. I turn the DCS off, engage paddles, put her in 1st and mash the throttle and spin through 1st and usually second before letting off.
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DPelletier (06-16-2017)
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Yep. I often drive with the "nannies" off. Some people here think you should be locked in a padded cell for that, but it all depends on what you're used to - I'm an old musclecar guy and have spent many hours behind the wheel of massively overpowered cars where the most electronic interference is an AM radio! ;-)
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Dave
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Burt Gummer (06-16-2017)
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Everything is relative though. A '71 Pantera is unmanageable.
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Yep; try a 1968 GTO with a 500hp 427, posi, 4.56 gears, drum brakes and 245/60/14 tires.....compared to that the F type is a pussycat with it's modern chassis, huge tires and brakes, etc. etc. I wouldn't go so far as to call the F type boring, but it's far from being the handful that many of my older cars were.....even with the nannies all the way off! ;-)
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Burt Gummer (06-17-2017)
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DPelletier and Burt Gummer,
It's funny you guys should mention the Pantera and the '68 Goat, I happen to have both of them! The Pantera is coming back to me this week after a 2 year restoration that included an engine transplant (300 hp to about 550 hp in a 2900 lb car), and the GTO goes in for full restoration when I pick up the Pantera. The Pantera barely had any traction at 300hp, can't wait to throw out that clutch with 550!
It's funny you guys should mention the Pantera and the '68 Goat, I happen to have both of them! The Pantera is coming back to me this week after a 2 year restoration that included an engine transplant (300 hp to about 550 hp in a 2900 lb car), and the GTO goes in for full restoration when I pick up the Pantera. The Pantera barely had any traction at 300hp, can't wait to throw out that clutch with 550!
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Yep; try a 1968 GTO with a 500hp 427, posi, 4.56 gears, drum brakes and 245/60/14 tires.....compared to that the F type is a pussycat with it's modern chassis, huge tires and brakes, etc. etc. I wouldn't go so far as to call the F type boring, but it's far from being the handful that many of my older cars were.....even with the nannies all the way off! ;-)
Dave
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DPelletier and Burt Gummer,
It's funny you guys should mention the Pantera and the '68 Goat, I happen to have both of them! The Pantera is coming back to me this week after a 2 year restoration that included an engine transplant (300 hp to about 550 hp in a 2900 lb car), and the GTO goes in for full restoration when I pick up the Pantera. The Pantera barely had any traction at 300hp, can't wait to throw out that clutch with 550!
It's funny you guys should mention the Pantera and the '68 Goat, I happen to have both of them! The Pantera is coming back to me this week after a 2 year restoration that included an engine transplant (300 hp to about 550 hp in a 2900 lb car), and the GTO goes in for full restoration when I pick up the Pantera. The Pantera barely had any traction at 300hp, can't wait to throw out that clutch with 550!
Dave
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cheers,
Dave
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DPelletier,
The '68 Goat with the Endura front bumper and the hidden headlights with the "Coke bottle" rear quarter, is most definitely my favortie car design of all time. Besides keeping me awake all through high school (as I was always drawing crude renderings of it), even when I sit in it now, without driving it, when you look out over that massive hood and see the hood mounted tachometer, the bulging hood scoops, all tapering down to that bumper (which forever changed the way cars were built, no more chrome), it's more exciting standing still than most new cars at a 150mph, so much visual stimulation.
The '68 Goat with the Endura front bumper and the hidden headlights with the "Coke bottle" rear quarter, is most definitely my favortie car design of all time. Besides keeping me awake all through high school (as I was always drawing crude renderings of it), even when I sit in it now, without driving it, when you look out over that massive hood and see the hood mounted tachometer, the bulging hood scoops, all tapering down to that bumper (which forever changed the way cars were built, no more chrome), it's more exciting standing still than most new cars at a 150mph, so much visual stimulation.
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DPelletier,
The '68 Goat with the Endura front bumper and the hidden headlights with the "Coke bottle" rear quarter, is most definitely my favortie car design of all time. Besides keeping me awake all through high school (as I was always drawing crude renderings of it), even when I sit in it now, without driving it, when you look out over that massive hood and see the hood mounted tachometer, the bulging hood scoops, all tapering down to that bumper (which forever changed the way cars were built, no more chrome), it's more exciting standing still than most new cars at a 150mph, so much visual stimulation.
The '68 Goat with the Endura front bumper and the hidden headlights with the "Coke bottle" rear quarter, is most definitely my favortie car design of all time. Besides keeping me awake all through high school (as I was always drawing crude renderings of it), even when I sit in it now, without driving it, when you look out over that massive hood and see the hood mounted tachometer, the bulging hood scoops, all tapering down to that bumper (which forever changed the way cars were built, no more chrome), it's more exciting standing still than most new cars at a 150mph, so much visual stimulation.
Dave
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