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Old Apr 25, 2021 | 04:27 AM
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The correct oils will list the JLR 51.5122 spec on the bottle.Your local car parts store will not carry it. Occasionally available on Amazon or Ebay. If you have a decent dealer nearby, they will carry it at a reasonable cost.
Had my car into the dealer yesterday for an oil change. listed 8 qts at $10.95 ea. filter at $46. $180 for a dealer oil change. Based on the online cost average of oil and filter add in your time and the pita to dispose of the used oil.
Seem very cost effective to just have the dealer do the oil change, If you have a dealer close by. My local dealer allows you to wait for the car.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2021 | 09:04 AM
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$180 for a dealer oil change is not bad at all when you consider the retail cost of the oil & filter. It is nice of JLR to do free oil changes as part of the scheduled maintenance that is covered by the 5 year/60,000 warranty. But.....The recommended oil change interval is 16,000 miles.

I have decided to buy a Mityvac and do my own changes in between those 16,000 mile intervals. Being retired now, it could be well over 2 years before I accumulate that many miles and no way will I go that long on the factory fill. Yes, it will cost a few hundred bucks for the Mityvac and the materials, but I figure for a $100K + car it isn't that big of a deal. It's not a car that one would take to Jiffylube and get one of their $29.95 oil changes......


 
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Old Apr 25, 2021 | 09:24 AM
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Don’t forget a filter wrench.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2021 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Dwight Frye
$180 for a dealer oil change is not bad at all when you consider the retail cost of the oil & filter. It is nice of JLR to do free oil changes as part of the scheduled maintenance that is covered by the 5 year/60,000 warranty. But.....The recommended oil change interval is 16,000 miles.

I have decided to buy a Mityvac and do my own changes in between those 16,000 mile intervals. Being retired now, it could be well over 2 years before I accumulate that many miles and no way will I go that long on the factory fill.
You haven't given the whole story - the recommended oil change is 16,000 miles or annually, whichever occurs first, so you'd never wait 2 years to accumulate the miles, the oil change would be done based on elapsed time.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2021 | 11:16 AM
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You haven't given the whole story - the recommended oil change is 16,000 miles or annually, whichever occurs first, so you'd never wait 2 years to accumulate the miles, the oil change would be done based on elapsed time.
I only put 2980 miles on my car last year. I think the recommended change interval is 16k miles or 1 year. I would never go 16K between changes. I will have mine done at 3500 or yearly. I think I will be safe at that mileage at time interval.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2021 | 11:36 AM
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$180 a good price, my last one was $220 at Vegas dealer.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2021 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 2004XJ8
I only put 2980 miles on my car last year. I think the recommended change interval is 16k miles or 1 year. I would never go 16K between changes. I will have mine done at 3500 or yearly. I think I will be safe at that mileage at time interval.
I only did 1700 miles last year - my independent refused to change the oil, saying it was a waste of money (and oil). He's a really hard guy to spend money on!
 
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Old Apr 25, 2021 | 02:35 PM
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The recommendation regarding oil changes after so many miles/kms OR one year leads to a bit of confusion. Many of our cars do not accumulate within one year sufficient miles/kms to even approach sensible change cycles (eg. every 3000 or 5000...). The assumption that the manufacturer makes in stipulating changes based on time intervals (one year) is that the car may be or is likely to be frequently used for very short runs - the worst sort of use for an internal combustion engine. if that is indeed the use pattern then even one year intervals may be stretching things.
But some/many of those who accumulate only low miles/kms in a year have other vehicles, and their F-Type (mine for example) is used only for runs of both time and distance sufficient to bring the mechanicals to optimum operating condition. When my F-Type goes out of the garage, it goes on the highway for plenty of exercise (and fun!). I know from experience that under these conditions of use the oil does not even begin to discolour (sadly, no diptsick in the F-Type to verify this), so a yearly change is almost certainly excessive. Still, given the fact that these GDI engines seem to require more stringent cleanliness, a yearly oil change may be appropriate (if expensive).
 
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Old Apr 25, 2021 | 06:36 PM
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If you want to check the colour and/or cleanliness of the oil just remove the oil filter canister and you will find a decent puddle of oil sitting in the canister receptacle then just suck a little out with a syringe.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2021 | 10:08 AM
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Good points sov211. The F Type will be a second car for me, only to leave the garage during nice weather and for the fun of going for a drive.
It will take a concerted effort to put 5000 miles on my new F Type when it arrives. I know, tough job but somebody has to do it....

If a year elapses and the dealer will do the oil change under warranty with much less than 16,000 miles on it, that would be great. If not I'll just do it myself. The cost is far outweighed by the peace of mind in knowing that my car is getting some TLC. And besides, I still like to do some hands on work on my cars even though the amount of maintenance that can be or needs to be done by the average owner has gotten less and less over the years.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2021 | 10:46 AM
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Typically, the 'free' maintenance must occur every 16,000 +/- 1000 miles, or 12 +/- 1 months. I did my XE two months late last year, and they were able to claim COVID as the excuse.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2021 | 10:56 AM
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I was just reading my F-Type handbook and noticed that the oil spec is different depending on the engine size.
Not sure whether it makes it easier to find or not.
As well discussed, the JLR spec for the 3L 6 cylinder is SAE 0W-20 meeting STJLR.51.5122 (available from Motul and Liqui Moly).
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for the 2L, 4 cylinder AND the 5L 8 cylinder the spec is SAE 0W-20 meeting STJLR.03.5006
I do not know what the difference is between these 2 different specifications, except perhaps the 6 cylinder requires higher grade oil because the 380HP (R-Dynamic) version is tuned more than the 4 or 8 cylinder vehicles??
 

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Depends on the MY, too - my MY18 manual states "All Vehicles: SAE 0W-20 meeting STJLR.51.5122. If unavailable SAE 5W-20 meeting STJLR.03.5004."

This obviously predates the 2.0 engine, which isnt mentioned.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2021 | 01:25 PM
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What the difference in the Top Tec and Special Tec 0W20, mine been the 2.0 it shows both,




 
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Old Apr 26, 2021 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by CJSJAG
I was just reading my F-Type handbook and noticed that the oil spec is different depending on the engine size.
Not sure whether it makes it easier to find or not.
As well discussed, the JLR spec for the 3L 6 cylinder is SAE 0W-20 meeting STJLR.51.5122 (available from Motul and Liqui Moly).
But
for the 2L, 4 cylinder AND the 5L 8 cylinder the spec is SAE 0W-20 meeting STJLR.03.5006
I do not know what the difference is between these 2 different specifications, except perhaps the 6 cylinder requires higher grade oil because the 380HP (R-Dynamic) version is tuned more than the 4 or 8 cylinder vehicles??
The V6 and V8 use the same oil, it's just that 51.5122 is a later spec than 03.5006.
I'm not sure when the spec changed but I very much doubt there is any significant difference between the two.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2021 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Dwight Frye
$180 for a dealer oil change is not bad at all when you consider the retail cost of the oil & filter. It is nice of JLR to do free oil changes as part of the scheduled maintenance that is covered by the 5 year/60,000 warranty. But.....The recommended oil change interval is 16,000 miles.

I have decided to buy a Mityvac and do my own changes in between those 16,000 mile intervals. Being retired now, it could be well over 2 years before I accumulate that many miles and no way will I go that long on the factory fill. Yes, it will cost a few hundred bucks for the Mityvac and the materials, but I figure for a $100K + car it isn't that big of a deal. It's not a car that one would take to Jiffylube and get one of their $29.95 oil changes......
Yes, but that 5 year/60,000 mile warranty provides free oil changes once every year or 16,000 miles whichever comes first. Jaguar wants the oil changed at a minimum of at least once a year regardless of the miles.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2021 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by scm
Are there still timing chain issues with these engines? I know the very early ones suffered because of the tensioners, but I'd have thought Jaguar would have got a robust solution in place by now.
my understanding is the timing chain specifications were changed, a wider chain was fitted to later engines, not sure when but think around 2013, haven't heard any reports of timing chain problems on later models.

 
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