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The F-Type looks nothing like the E-Type?

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Old Jul 19, 2017 | 12:50 PM
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https://www.autotrader.com/car-news/...-e-type-267464

Yeaaaaaahhhhhh... There's so much homage in the car. I know it's not a copy, but I always considered it an elegant way to represent the E-Type in a modern way, while not losing so many of the lines, or design elements.

Is this guy right, and I am totally wrong? Or is it a bad read?
 
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Old Jul 19, 2017 | 01:03 PM
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Lot's of E-Type styling characteristics...tail lights, V6 exhaust, etc.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2017 | 01:26 PM
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For me, F-type put E-type on my wish list of cars to have, not the other way around.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2017 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by SinF
For me, F-type put E-type on my wish list of cars to have, not the other way around.
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I always thought it was a bit of a stretch to declare a genetic lineage between the two cars. As Buick mentions, though, there are some very subtle design elements that attempt to tie the two together.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2017 | 08:36 PM
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There are enough styling cues that I believe the F Type pays a nice homage to the E Type.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2017 | 08:55 PM
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The family tree...
 
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Old Jul 20, 2017 | 03:44 AM
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Well firstly you need to put a coupe up against a coupe and a convertibale against a convertible. You also need to use a series 1 or 2 and not a series three. But the heritage is very clearly there especially at the back the boot line on the verts is clearly derivative and the back end of the coupes is very clearly derivative. Less so at the front but there is still the triple bumps across the bonnet and the mouth at the front.

But agree that i am happy they are not just copies, they are a clear evolution which doesn't pretend to be an e type but recognizes its heritage.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2017 | 03:47 AM
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And here is my driveway :-)


 
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Old Jul 20, 2017 | 12:47 PM
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From watching a few interviews with Ian Callum about the genesis of the F-Type it was apparent that the brief was to produce a very modern Jaguar two seater with a nod to the E-Type heritage without being a copy. I was honestly never a huge fan of the E-Type (yes, set me on fire now) and if I had to choose one or the other, it would be the F.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2017 | 01:32 PM
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There was never a car more culturally popular than the e-type.
It was a darling of the jet-set. No car since has been so universally popular and praised.

Ian had a two-fold mission with the Ftype- get away from the impossible legacy of the Etype and yet somehow try to leverage it. He totally succeeded. What the Ftype lacks by Lord Ian's own admission is that it was designed by a "crayon" (an art school graduate) the Etype was designed by one of the greatest aeronautical mathematicians.

Bottom line. The etype was attractive on to our sense of form following function as opposed to abstract art.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2017 | 03:12 PM
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I've owned both and while I see similarities the familial difference is less than it was with the first generation XK-8 (even with the huge trunk). But after seeing the original F-Type concept (XK-180) which clearly hard linked to the E-Type I really see the current F-Type as more different than similar. As a side note, I'm still very tempted to build or find an XK-180 replica to play with. 2000 Jaguar F-Type Concept - conceptcarz.com

Both cars were well done for their respective times. The E-Type really isn't a great car by today's standards (the electrics alone would likely drive you to drink) and you couldn't build the F-Type in the 1960s (the 1970s E-Types sucked). The only thing that matters is that it is easy to fall in love with either of them and falling in love with a young car is no where near as risky as doing so with a young girl (as my cousin's recent divorce just showcased).
 
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Old Jul 21, 2017 | 07:08 PM
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[QUOTE=enderle;1725645 As a side note, I'm still very tempted to build or find an XK-180 replica to play with.[/QUOTE]

You should do it. You will make a fortune. Its one of the most sought after things in high-end motoring. Jeremy Clarkson says its the most beautiful thing he has ever seen.

Here is a video. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4kh3ph
 
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Old Jul 22, 2017 | 02:20 PM
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That's basically a remanufactured E-Type. Tempting but it is around half a million dollars and way out of anything I'd be willing to spend on a car. The XK-180 was based on the XKR but took it back to its 2 seat roadster looks. Saw it in person over a decade ago and fell in love with it. There is a kit you can/could buy in Europe and an outfit that I was talking to making them there as well. Here is the website for the firm remaking kit. XK180.com - Home

Here is the link to the page for the folks remanufacturing them: http://www.jepespecials.nl/language/en/welcome/
 

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Old Jul 23, 2017 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by AnD3rew
And here is my driveway :-)


A modern and a classic...best of both worlds!
 
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Old Jul 23, 2017 | 12:03 PM
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I wish I could see that pair in my driveway! I don't think that there is that much E type design cues in the F. But it doesn't need them. It's a modern design that can stand on it's own. The above photo that includes the XK8, now there it is obvious that the XK8 was almost a modern restatement of the E type. That was a good move by the company at the time, as sales were very strong. Jaguar has the very difficult job of retaining some classic mystique while developing modern designs that appeal to the new car buyer. Not an enviable task.
 
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