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Old 05-14-2017, 06:32 PM
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I would be interested as well. Trying to decide how much pain I am willing to go through to pull the cover. That would help me decide.
 
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Actually it appears a coupe is easier to disassemble, since there is no rollover hoops.

The only painful trim pieces are the speaker grilles, getting them out without damaging the tabs, you can see the picture in the first post with all of the tabs that hold the grille into the bulkhead carpets.

I use little metal hook tools to pull the tabs in, so they come out of the slots in the carpet without tearing.

The official instructions don't show much detail unfortunately Amplifier Removal.pdf
 
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Originally Posted by Jon Robinson
Yes please sir
Hi! The seats removing the same as was described by @Cambo

here is the next steps afar seats are removed:




remove pillars



remove cover tray



remove parcel shelf



the amplifier





remove seat back covers



rear speakers
 
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From looking at the photos for a coupe, you shouldn't have to remove the large cover (unless you want to get at the speakers). If my understanding is correct, once you get the parcel shelf off (along with the pillars and cover tray), you should be able to access the amp - unless I am missing something.
 
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Originally Posted by dwoodard
From looking at the photos for a coupe, you shouldn't have to remove the large cover (unless you want to get at the speakers). If my understanding is correct, once you get the parcel shelf off (along with the pillars and cover tray), you should be able to access the amp - unless I am missing something.
If you need only access for removing amplifier, you need to remove: seats, pillars and parcel shelf.
 
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Well I came across something rather interesting regarding the speakers in the F-Type.

The front door bass speakers are the same as the X351 XJ rear door bass speakers, and the subs on the parcel shelf.
This means there is a potential to swap out these "cheap" Meridian speakers for the Kevlar ones from the B&W 1200W system, or the special ones from the 1500W Meridian Signature system.

Likewise the front door midrange speakers are also taken from the X351 XJ, however they are the low-spec version from the Base audio, and 380W Meridian. In the XJ there is a "better" midrange speaker used in the 825W system, also a "better" one from the earlier 1200W B&W system, and the 1500W Meridian Signature system.

So definitely some options to put better quality speakers in an F-Type than what it's got from the factory, and they will bolt straight up, with the same wiring connectors.
 
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Originally Posted by Cambo
Well I came across something rather interesting regarding the speakers in the F-Type.

The front door bass speakers are the same as the X351 XJ rear door bass speakers, and the subs on the parcel shelf.
This means there is a potential to swap out these "cheap" Meridian speakers for the Kevlar ones from the B&W 1200W system, or the special ones from the 1500W Meridian Signature system.

Likewise the front door midrange speakers are also taken from the X351 XJ, however they are the low-spec version from the Base audio, and 380W Meridian. In the XJ there is a "better" midrange speaker used in the 825W system, also a "better" one from the earlier 1200W B&W system, and the 1500W Meridian Signature system.

So definitely some options to put better quality speakers in an F-Type than what it's got from the factory, and they will bolt straight up, with the same wiring connectors.
Yes, you wright!
The next combination of speakers could be the best one:
- tweeters doesn't need replacement;
- bass speakers change to X351 rear doors black Kevlar speakers from 1500W system
- midrange replace to B&W yellow surround sound system.
 
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Originally Posted by Cambo
Well I came across something rather interesting regarding the speakers in the F-Type.

The front door bass speakers are the same as the X351 XJ rear door bass speakers, and the subs on the parcel shelf.
This means there is a potential to swap out these "cheap" Meridian speakers for the Kevlar ones from the B&W 1200W system, or the special ones from the 1500W Meridian Signature system.

Likewise the front door midrange speakers are also taken from the X351 XJ, however they are the low-spec version from the Base audio, and 380W Meridian. In the XJ there is a "better" midrange speaker used in the 825W system, also a "better" one from the earlier 1200W B&W system, and the 1500W Meridian Signature system.

So definitely some options to put better quality speakers in an F-Type than what it's got from the factory, and they will bolt straight up, with the same wiring connectors.
But wouldn't the crossover logic need to be reprogrammed to accommodate for the acoustical differences of the upgraded speakers?
 
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But wouldn't the crossover logic need to be reprogrammed to accommodate for the acoustical differences of the upgraded speakers?
Not necessarily.

Experience so far with other cars like the XF, XK, etc shows that putting in a better quality OEM speaker just sounds better, without any software changes...
 
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Originally Posted by Cambo
Well I came across something rather interesting regarding the speakers in the F-Type.

The front door bass speakers are the same as the X351 XJ rear door bass speakers, and the subs on the parcel shelf.
This means there is a potential to swap out these "cheap" Meridian speakers for the Kevlar ones from the B&W 1200W system, or the special ones from the 1500W Meridian Signature system.

Likewise the front door midrange speakers are also taken from the X351 XJ, however they are the low-spec version from the Base audio, and 380W Meridian. In the XJ there is a "better" midrange speaker used in the 825W system, also a "better" one from the earlier 1200W B&W system, and the 1500W Meridian Signature system.

So definitely some options to put better quality speakers in an F-Type than what it's got from the factory, and they will bolt straight up, with the same wiring connectors.
That sounds very intriguing! Where can you buy those upgraded speakers, and if you chose to upgrade them all how much would you estimate the parts would cost?
 
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So enthused by this thread I have got an amp and the speaker to go in the central housing. Having pulled off the speaker grill, I cannot see any cable to connect it. Only a cable that appears to connect to the dome sat in front of the grill. Is the cable deeper in the housing or is it it missing (in which case what next ?).

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So having stumbled with the speaker as above - there is no cable to connect it too !
centre speaker - wire is for dome sensorI moved onto the amp swap. I have a coupe so it was relatively easy to do, you dont need to remove the seats just the door and centre trim the pull the parcel shelf towards you. However the amp is nothing like the replacement one. It only has three cables present, not five.


Considering these plugs look different to the amp I have I am now stumped.

 
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Old 10-20-2017, 03:59 PM
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What year is your car? And does it have the 380W Meridian system?
 
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Its a F-Type R 2016, It has the meridian system, it says Meridian on the speaker grills in the door. However it is the SD card based NAV, and I suspect because of this everything is different. Going to have to admit defeat and put it back together :-(
 
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Old 10-21-2017, 06:15 AM
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Yeah if it used an SD card that's the NGI/NLI infotainment system, not the same one that these upgrades were for (earlier cars used IAM2.1 infotainment). The amp you got is for an IAM2.1 car.

If you mean 2016 because of 16 or 66 number plate, it's quite likely to be a 2017MY car, as I recall the NGI/NLI system came with 2017MY, 2016MY was still IAM2.1, send me a PM with the VIN of the car, I will check the build sheet anyhow to know for sure.
 
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Checked on TOPIX and it says: NLI HEAD UNIT LEVEL C. Not sure what that translates too. Be interested in how you upgrade these systems. TOPIX also says 2016.
 
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Old 10-21-2017, 05:46 PM
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OK I think I understand it now.

The NLI HEAD UNIT LEVEL C is the new infotainment system, but it's the lower-spec version and cannot be upgraded to the Surround system, the Surround is the NGI HEAD UNIT - HIGH, and basically everything is different between the two; touchscrean, head unit, amp, wiring, etc...

I think the F-Types were the same as some other JLR models in the 2016MY, where the Surround system still used the IAM2.1, and the lower spec audio changed to NLI, then in 2017MY the Surround system changed from IAM2.1 to NGI.

The Discovery Sport is like this in 2016MY, the Meridian Surround was still an IAM2.1 system, but the lower-spec systems were the NLI. The infotainment has become much more complex and confusing in the new cars, and very unfriendly for those of us who like to retrofit/upgrade.

So there aren't really any upgrade options for your car using factory components, sorry!
 
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Thanks for the help. Interesting then. So I appreciate the amp is of no use to me. But I wonder if the lower spec NLI systems are up-gradable at all, and is there a route to the 2017 NGI ?... or retrofit. Or is just to many parts involved. just wonder if you got hold of a system from an Evoque or the like if you could do something ?
 
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Originally Posted by Paul Calvert
Thanks for the help. Interesting then. So I appreciate the amp is of no use to me. But I wonder if the lower spec NLI systems are up-gradable at all, and is there a route to the 2017 NGI ?... or retrofit. Or is just to many parts involved. just wonder if you got hold of a system from an Evoque or the like if you could do something ?
For retrofit from NLI to NGI need to change a lot of wiring, change Head Unit, Touchscreen, amplifier. But it’s a lot of work with disassembling almost all lower parts of interior: floor, seats, luggage area (in case of Evoque); about wiring, needs a lot of new pins & connector housings.
 
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^^^ what he said. Massive and expensive job, I wouldn't take it on myself.
 


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