Greetings all from Houston - 2016 F Type s Manual with 20K Miles. Drove to the office this morning, car performed normally. Drove home this evening, no problems, no noticable clutch noises or slippage. Came out to move the car an hour or so later and car wont go into gear. When engine is off, I can depress the clutch and put the car in gear. However, upon starting the engine, with clutch depressed, car won';t go into any gear. Is this a clutch failure or some sort of security issue? I disconnected the battery for a minute or so in case it was some sort of fault code. But same results. Car starts right up but will not go into any gear. It almost feels like it is locking out the gear shifter. Any help or suggestion is appreciated.

 

Your clutch needs replacement If it's the original on a 2016, you're might have the last Gen.1 clutch that hasn't blown up, and it's surprising it's lasted this long.

That was symptom #3 for me, after slipping and vibration.

Search for the "Clutch Satisfaction" thread here and grab a beverage for a long read.

 

Thanks Steve. Would it just quit functioning without warning? I have owned/driven 20+ manual cars in my life (Healeys, MGs, Porsches, BMWs, Mercedes, etc) and always had plenty of warning when clutch was going (eve if I didnt always heed it). Nothing seemed out of the ordinary recently, nobody but me driving and I don't drive it hard.

 

The first generation clutch in the F-Type was defective. When mine was replaced I asked to see the one that came out. One of the components had started shedding pieces. That's what was causing the failure to fully disengage, but the other symptoms preceded that.

There was a TSB on it. I don't have it handy but I got it here. It's probably in the "Clutch Satisfaction" thread.

 

Since you are in Houston, it may be worth your while to call Kevin at Momentum. He was my writer even before I got the F-Type, but he was instrumental in getting Jaguar to cover the second clutch right as I was nearing the mileage point to kill the warranty (they also did the original replacement at about 1200 miles or so). He understands what the third pedal is for and knows there are only a couple of manual F-Types in the area...

The concern, however, is whether you have any warranty remaining...

 

With both of the replacements I had in the F-Type, there was some warning. However, the clutch in the X-Type did about what you describe...biggest difference was that the person driving it (roommate) had it quit going into gear while driving home. No prior notice of impending failure...

Of course, I also had a tranny grenade in the Miata while running on the highway and leaving me with nothing but the 4th gear direct drive...that was a fun few weeks while waiting for the new stuff to arrive.

 

What the manufacture date of your car (it's on the black sticker on the driver's door jamb above the latch)?

 

Build date is 10/15. Last 5 of Vin is 32166. No warranty remaining unfortunately. Last time I had it in for service at SW Freeway Jag service rep was adamant that clutch was a wear and tear item as I asked if he was aware of clutch issues. Probably will go with an independent shop to manage cost.

 

If you mean Momentum, then unfortunately you were not dealing with Kevin...he was WELL aware of the issue but, alas, they have some who feigned ignorance and have more in common with the lot jockeys who cannot even DRIVE a manual-equipped vehicle.

Kevin has told me more than once he has only seen a few other manual F-Types in the area, one of which they had sitting in the back lot for months on end due to lemon-law issues where the corporate people were apparently trying to figure out how to make the owner whole (wiring issue as I recall).

 

Mine is 10/15 build date too but my VIN is about 350 lower than yours so would have been produced before. I have always thought that mine may have been one of the first second gen clutches because of other manufacture date discussions and the way the second gen clutch has been described on this forum (engaging with a lot of torque transfer through the drive train and especially it seems, to the differential). If it isn't and I have a first generation clutch, I would appear to be the highest miles (47K) and no sign of any clutch problems to date.

 

The bulletin doesn't look like it's showing affected VINs. It's this - "TOPIx - SSM73047 - X152 - Clutch Kit Improvement - Updated Part". I'm sure I got it here somewhere but am not getting it in a quick search. The "Clutch Satisfaction" thread is the richest source of information on that here, but there may be some stray pearls of wisdom in other threads.

 

found it thanks

 

I have a '16 manual coupe with original clutch...it's a base model with 33,000 miles and has been flawless so far...not the slickest shifting car I've ever driven but certainly gets the job done...build date is July 2015..

 

I'm considering a 2016 S with the original clutch. What does it cost to replace?

 

jehart:

There is a very long and excellent discussion thread about the clutches with a great many details that I believe also includes some members costs for their repairs at:

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/f...action-158861/

Good Luck,