F-Type ( X152 ) 2014 - Onwards

Improving the stock intake: More flow, lower IAT's & More SC noise!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 1, 2018 | 07:38 PM
  #81  
Itismejoshy's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 383
Likes: 154
Default

Another angle of the back of the air box with the inner fender removed.
 

Last edited by Itismejoshy; May 2, 2018 at 08:24 AM.
Reply
Old May 6, 2018 | 02:36 PM
  #82  
Gibbo205's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 536
Likes: 135
From: UK
Default

Hi there

OK so today I decided to perfect the RAM air install by using some larger ducting as for my trial install I just used some 60mm spare brake ducting I had spare. So I ordered this from kit from ebay:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cold-Air-...72.m2749.l2649


Which is 76mm and has neat ducts on the end, chopping this in half pretty much makes them spot, just shape the ends going into the ducts slightly square by squshing them a little and they then fit perfect, snug and tight.

I wrapped the metal ducting ends in some foam and then insulated in tape, reasoning behind this is so they don't clang against the metal crash bar as any metal on metal knocking could of course create a false knock situation, that is why the ends in the photos are wrapped in tape, but within that tape is foam to make sure that does not happen.

Using cable ties you can hold the ducts in the exact position you wish.

Photo of stock setup and my trial 60mm ducting:






The new 76mm ducting:









Some photos of the car in the sun.










Its a much neater install, cannot be seen behind the grill with the benefits of drawing cooler air but also been able to catch air in motion to try and a create an ram air effect.

Will it make me go any faster, who knows, probably not but it certainly did not slow me downon the trial setup resulting in a PB of 11.2@124mph in not ideal conditions. Hoping I can get an 11.1s run, which will make me very happy considering the car is still stock and that pretty much then guarantees a lower pulley and map should yield a high ten second run.
 
Reply
Old May 14, 2018 | 11:59 AM
  #83  
4x4uk's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 186
Likes: 41
From: Newcastle
Thumbs up

this is the best solution I have seen so far especially considering what it costs (almost nothing )
 
Reply
Old May 14, 2018 | 12:56 PM
  #84  
Gibbo205's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 536
Likes: 135
From: UK
Default

Originally Posted by 4x4uk
this is the best solution I have seen so far especially considering what it costs (almost nothing )
Yeah if you wanted to catch even more air you could put some rectangle brake duct on the end of hoses and then put those behind the grill for an even neater install.
 
Reply
Old May 14, 2018 | 12:59 PM
  #85  
4x4uk's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 186
Likes: 41
From: Newcastle
Default

think ill have a mooch through my collection of bits in the garage when I get back from my holidays. Im sure Ive got a boatload of ducting from when I build the landrover 90 raised air intake
 
Reply
Old May 14, 2018 | 06:20 PM
  #86  
Timbo's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 394
Likes: 102
From: Ruislip, London
Default

Im no expert but surely having corrogated pipework and not smooth pipework will muck up the airflow, like i said im no expert lol.
 
Reply
Old May 14, 2018 | 07:52 PM
  #87  
Unhingd's Avatar
Veteran Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 16,948
Likes: 4,727
From: Maryland, US
Default

Originally Posted by Timbo
Im no expert but surely having corrogated pipework and not smooth pipework will muck up the airflow, like i said im no expert lol.
+1. Dryer vent ducting is not conducive to laminar flow.
 
Reply
Old May 15, 2018 | 03:03 AM
  #88  
Gibbo205's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 536
Likes: 135
From: UK
Default

Originally Posted by Timbo
Im no expert but surely having corrogated pipework and not smooth pipework will muck up the airflow, like i said im no expert lol.

Originally Posted by Unhingd
+1. Dryer vent ducting is not conducive to laminar flow.

As its before the filter, it has no impact to flow, the idea is simply to reduce IAT's by pulling the air from a cooler source and giving the snorkels access to more air.

Only modifications after the filter is conducive to laminar flow, particular after the MAF.
 
Reply
Old May 22, 2018 | 10:57 AM
  #89  
frostysauce's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 102
Likes: 119
From: New York, NY
Default

What is the ID of the tube where the MAF is located? And is there a MAF sensor on each side?
 
Reply
Old May 24, 2018 | 11:04 AM
  #90  
NeverQuit's Avatar
Member
Joined: Aug 2016
Posts: 74
Likes: 3
From: Jacksonville
Default

I emailed Dan at Velossa about 10 days ago and was told they weren't pursuing the project since the SVR and R have different inlet designs. I have a '16 R. I was willing to drive down there as a donor car. Oh well.
 
Reply
Old May 24, 2018 | 11:35 AM
  #91  
frostysauce's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 102
Likes: 119
From: New York, NY
Default

Originally Posted by NeverQuit
I emailed Dan at Velossa about 10 days ago and was told they weren't pursuing the project since the SVR and R have different inlet designs. I have a '16 R. I was willing to drive down there as a donor car. Oh well.
I am looking into creating an Intake for the R, but beyond what the current Eventuri system has to offer. It looks like that system only replaces the bend prior to the MAF, using the original MAF housing, and then the filter on the end of that. I am planning to replace the entire system all the way to the SC inlet with either aluminum or carbon fiber tubing, this would include the y-joiner right at the inlet. I imaging some sort of heat-shield could be made around the filter, or at least a guard on the filter to prevent it from sucking in air directly from the radiator.
 
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2018 | 01:54 PM
  #92  
Gibbo205's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 536
Likes: 135
From: UK
Default

Is this enough SC whine for you guys.




In person sounds even better.
 
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2018 | 02:52 PM
  #93  
Chawumba's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 800
Likes: 243
From: So Cal
Default

Sounds like the perfect amount of SC whine
 

Last edited by Chawumba; Jul 24, 2018 at 03:03 PM. Reason: dulplicate
Reply
Old Jul 25, 2018 | 04:06 PM
  #94  
V8S's Avatar
V8S
Banned
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 135
Likes: 5
Default

Originally Posted by NigelW
As much as I want to jump on the bandwagon, I "need" to see some performance impact numbers first, life as an engineer has it's burdens.
However, I definitely notice a change in performance on very hot days and I am pushing the car. Note, I have the VAP tune+pulley, but the stock cats. So Unhingd's comment on the hot air has me thinking maybe this could help some. Or maybe it's just a way to justify it.
There's no good way to measure the impact of ram air intakes using a dyno. Butt dyno is more accurate anyway.
 
Reply
Old Jul 25, 2018 | 08:44 PM
  #95  
SVR's Avatar
SVR
Senior Member
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 190
Likes: 42
From: CA
Default

Originally Posted by V8S
There's no good way to measure the impact of ram air intakes using a dyno. Butt dyno is more accurate anyway.
You mean there's no way to actually "ram air" into a forced induction engine?
 
Reply
Old Jul 26, 2018 | 03:48 AM
  #96  
Gibbo205's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 536
Likes: 135
From: UK
Default

Originally Posted by SVR
You mean there's no way to actually "ram air" into a forced induction engine?
Nope but anything that can help further reduce IAT can help with spark advance which can mean more power.
Afterall if it was pointless then why would Jaguar have a fully functional RAM AIR intake system on the Project 8?
 
Reply
Old Jul 26, 2018 | 10:05 AM
  #97  
Chawumba's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 800
Likes: 243
From: So Cal
Default

Originally Posted by Gibbo205
Nope but anything that can help further reduce IAT can help with spark advance which can mean more power.
Afterall if it was pointless then why would Jaguar have a fully functional RAM AIR intake system on the Project 8?
Seems like a ram air intake could also potentially reduce parasitic drag from the supercharger, thereby increasing available HP to spin the driveshaft.
 
Reply
Old Jul 26, 2018 | 11:05 AM
  #98  
fujicoupe's Avatar
Banned
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 1,506
Likes: 426
From: South Carolina
Default

Originally Posted by Chawumba
Seems like a ram air intake could also potentially reduce parasitic drag from the supercharger, thereby increasing available HP to spin the driveshaft.
Parasitic drag? How do you know my ex-wife?
 
Reply
Old Jul 26, 2018 | 11:40 AM
  #99  
Chawumba's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 800
Likes: 243
From: So Cal
Wink

Originally Posted by fujicoupe
Parasitic drag? How do you know my ex-wife?
Apt description of my ex as well.....
 
Reply
Old Jul 26, 2018 | 12:18 PM
  #100  
fujicoupe's Avatar
Banned
Joined: May 2018
Posts: 1,506
Likes: 426
From: South Carolina
Default

Originally Posted by Chawumba
Apt description of my ex as well.....
https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/s...5&action=click

Tongue in cheek, of course.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:02 PM.